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34. I'm aware of his fight for gay rights. But it still has nothing to do with israel

Sat Aug 9, 2014, 05:41 PM

Aug 2014

It just seems gratuitous to include it. Is every statement he makes going to include this fact from now on? It'd be like mentioning it if he spoke out against the war in Iraq.
I guess it may make sense to some, it just doesnt to me. Its not a big deal, I just dont see the need to point out someone being gay or anything else.

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Irish senator blasts Israel as �right-wing regime� committing �criminal� acts in epic rant [View all] Galraedia Aug 2014 OP

Yes indeed it is a rag that is constantly waved to justify anything - n/t mazzarro Aug 2014 #1

Meanwhile Israel allows freedoms that you are stoned for or beheading for in Palestine. abovesobelow Aug 2014 #2

And? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #21

this^ 2banon Aug 2014 #35

and lets not pretend israel's issues with palestinians have anything to do with gay rights JI7 Aug 2014 #42

+ Infinity and a banana split. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #56

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #23

Why do you have to jump to "jew-haters"? Criticism of the Israeli government is just not the same gtar100 Aug 2014 #29

The post has been unanimously hidden alp227 Aug 2014 #49

Posting privildges have been revoked. happyslug Aug 2014 #58

Pssst.. If you're trying to shut down discussion by accusing everyone that criticizes Israel notadmblnd Aug 2014 #31

it's not a joke, california having gay rights doesn't excuse the bigoted thugs attacking immigrant JI7 Aug 2014 #43

aah, the old pink washing talking points. m-lekktor Aug 2014 #32

the US should not be criticized on the war in Iraq because gays and women have it better in the US JI7 Aug 2014 #39

if you care about gay rights than fight for those rights but don't use it as an excuse to oppress JI7 Aug 2014 #40

i don't believe being gay is illegal among palestinians , most of the problem is more within society JI7 Aug 2014 #44

"hypocrisy and contextual ignorance" Martin Eden Aug 2014 #62

Why do they have to mention that he's "openly gay"? What does that have to do with the story? 7962 Aug 2014 #3

Because if they didn't, Aboveshadow couldn't have a point. Hoppy Aug 2014 #6

Because he is internationally renowned for his successful fight for gay rights Divernan Aug 2014 #8

I'm aware of his fight for gay rights. But it still has nothing to do with israel 7962 Aug 2014 #34

Because if Buzz Aldrin ever commented on some policy, Calista241 Aug 2014 #77

Those are professional accomplishments. Might as well point out he has green eyes too. 7962 Aug 2014 #81

It doesn't have shit to do with Israel. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #80

What would either a black person or gay person know about violent oppression? DRoseDARs Aug 2014 #14

Quite valid point! Divernan Aug 2014 #18

Blacks & gays had no choice in their oppression. Hamas was chosen by Gazans. 7962 Aug 2014 #36

Palestinians were being oppressed long before Hamas. Galraedia Aug 2014 #41

They started warring from day ONE. And blacks and gays never attacked anyone. 7962 Aug 2014 #51

Baloney. Hamas only came into being because of the occupation and mistreatment of Palestinians. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #53

Palestinians had their own state in '47, refused it, and went to war instead 7962 Aug 2014 #55

Total baloney. BillZBubb Aug 2014 #57

No, they DID have a choice. They were given their own state similar to Israel. 7962 Aug 2014 #64

Yet no mention of Hamas atrocities seveneyes Aug 2014 #4

Any links to prove your claim of Hamas "abuse toward gays and women"?Any?Please? Divernan Aug 2014 #9

from wikipedia...not abuse, just killed. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #13

So you rely on an Israeli's claim in which Wikipedia simply quotes the Israeli - Divernan Aug 2014 #17

I would not make it out of Gaza alive King_David Aug 2014 #59

You fail to provide a SCINTILLA of proof for your claim! Divernan Aug 2014 #60

Hamas say gays are perverts will be punished if they win elections King_David Aug 2014 #63

Your 2005 link has NO picture of Zahar & speculates re "punishment", not killing. Divernan Aug 2014 #65

Hamas never won election ? King_David Aug 2014 #66

Your link was in 2005; Hamas won election in 2006. Divernan Aug 2014 #68

Hamas are among the most regressive homophobic gay hating King_David Aug 2014 #69

Please stop pretending that Israel is some sort of beacon of tolerance and liberalism. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #70

Oh now we are talking about something else King_David Aug 2014 #71

That was someone else's red herring, not mine Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #72

I was talking about the bigotry and extreme right wing homophobia King_David Aug 2014 #73

And I'm talking about the bigotry and extreme racism in Israel. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #74

"Hamas is not the same thing as the Palestinians" King_David Aug 2014 #75

I don't know, bombs are pretty deadly. /nt Ash_F Aug 2014 #79

I guess it's ok to mow all of Palestine down with bombs then! m-lekktor Aug 2014 #33

This is a lie Laughing Mirror Aug 2014 #76

Senator Norris is a legendary gay rights and civil rights hero in Ireland. Divernan Aug 2014 #5

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This message was self-deleted by its author 2banon Aug 2014 #19

.... abelenkpe Aug 2014 #24

Cog Dis x 1000000000000 2banon Aug 2014 #37

K&R Grey Aug 2014 #10

Pffffffft!!!!!!! ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #11

I know right? Nt abelenkpe Aug 2014 #25

LOL. n/t whathehell Aug 2014 #27

Senator David Norris" Israel bombs first and weeps later". Divernan Aug 2014 #12

Gaza Speech Makes David Norris YouTube's Top Political Hit Divernan Aug 2014 #16

Wow! He pulls no punches. May he hasten the day when each country (e.g., the US) Stevepol Aug 2014 #20

Don't forget the profit motive. US/MIC profiteering. Israel/taking over PA's oil fields. Divernan Aug 2014 #22

There is nothing quite like an Irishman in full rant. Brigid Aug 2014 #26

Yes, indeed and don't forget the Scots! 2banon Aug 2014 #38

Or an Irish woman swilton Aug 2014 #52

POWERFUL SPEECH. Will make the Israeli apologists furious. Divernan Aug 2014 #61

Can you imagine George W or Barack Obama at Question Time? Calista241 Aug 2014 #78

God bless the Irish. Brigid Aug 2014 #67

K&R NealK Aug 2014 #28

I'd love to know what he considers that halcyon period of Israeli when he owned a home there. oberliner Aug 2014 #30

He's not the only one to make such comparisons. Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #45

I'm just asking what the "good Israel" period was oberliner Aug 2014 #46

I'd guess it would be before 1967? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2014 #47

Just checked Wikipedia - looks like 1975-1985 oberliner Aug 2014 #48

Take note America: extreme right-wing regimes typically behave in the most criminal fashion, defying indepat Aug 2014 #50

The truth! nt BillZBubb Aug 2014 #54