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59. Her criticism is incoherent

Sun Aug 10, 2014, 06:32 PM

Aug 2014

So, I'm trying to get her reasoning straight - the US should have been involved in Syria early on by somehow finding the good rebels and those same "good guys" would have toppled Assad and magically brought about a democratic Syria...And somehow the Al Qaeda/ISIS affiliated Jihadists wouldn't have been able to take control of the opposition? And all this neglects the fact that Putin had no intention of letting Assad go.

I'm tired of her Kissingerian level of bullshit. I've seen enough of these games. I have no respect for her so called foreign policy credentials. She's worse than Kerry...

Not only that, but every time she opens her mouth about Iraq or Syria I'm reminded she backed the disastrous invasion of Iraq in the first place making the country the magnet for the Jihadists it is today. And I'm supposed to somehow believe that allowing the toppling of another secular leader in the region is a good idea?

Fuck that noise.

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Hillary Clinton criticizes Obama's foreign policy 'failure'; strongly defends Israel [View all] candelista Aug 2014 OP

She seems to be sidling over in the direction of McCain. djean111 Aug 2014 #1

Birds of a feather. L0oniX Aug 2014 #10

Agreed nt newfie11 Aug 2014 #32

She's a neocon. Always has been.., CoffeeCat Aug 2014 #78

+1000. blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #47

Oh yeah, she's running. And it is sad to see the way she is going to run. And she doesn't have to kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #61

Ok Elizebeth Warren its time for you to annoucne and INdemo Aug 2014 #92

Independents? xxqqqzme Aug 2014 #112

Also agree. SoapBox Aug 2014 #70

Sidling? JackRiddler Aug 2014 #83

From the same article: Hillary on Israel candelista Aug 2014 #2

Of course she in AIPAC's pocket. totodeinhere Aug 2014 #20

yet another reason lululu Aug 2014 #44

(sigh) have to agree. PFunk Aug 2014 #62

Well, there you have it..... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #118

I knew this about her. bravenak Aug 2014 #3

At least Obama doesn't lie about sniper fire Politicalboi Aug 2014 #4

Yep sticking with the right. Faux pas Aug 2014 #5

I'll vote for her if she's the nominee, it would be foolhardy to do otherwise groundloop Aug 2014 #14

You have an odd idea of "perfection." Maedhros Aug 2014 #35

Bullshit n/t DeSwiss Aug 2014 #40

What if she is the Republican nominee INdemo Aug 2014 #93

A vote for Hillary IS a vote for the Right. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2014 #34

Hillary's achievements on foreign policy, in chronological order: TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #6

You forgot Benghazi. :) candelista Aug 2014 #7

Pffft! Scootaloo Aug 2014 #8

RW talking points? Beacool Aug 2014 #25

It is true that the President has the final say, but being in the cabinet is a powerful place to be karynnj Aug 2014 #73

And she is neither! Why does media even ask if not to promote a war? freshwest Aug 2014 #88

What I get out of this story is.... candelista Aug 2014 #9

This is to play to the Israelis DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #11

I agree - this is her major play for $$$ from American Israeli-sympathizers. Divernan Aug 2014 #31

Interesting post. So you think she doesn't really want to be Prez? candelista Aug 2014 #49

Neither. She MAY know her health will preclude her, & MAY want to rake in as much $$$ as possible Divernan Aug 2014 #60

And who was Sec. of State for most of those years? RandySF Aug 2014 #12

Exactly... n/t KoKo Aug 2014 #23

SOS are not presidents, they don't set policy. Beacool Aug 2014 #26

I think lululu Aug 2014 #45

Nope, you're right. RandySF Aug 2014 #57

shocking frylock Aug 2014 #13

This is a point against her in my play book. oldandhappy Aug 2014 #15

I certainly hope another viable candidate comes along soon..... groundloop Aug 2014 #16

It's just hard to think of anybody else. candelista Aug 2014 #21

I really do believe that a major candidate to Clinton's left will emerge. totodeinhere Aug 2014 #22

Voting for "the lesser of 2 evils" still gets you ... EVIL blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #50

+1,000 happynewyear Aug 2014 #100

Joe Biden lululu Aug 2014 #46

Joe has some baggage too such as his vote for the bankruptcy bill. n/t totodeinhere Aug 2014 #53

Hillary voted for the similar 2001 bankruptcy vote karynnj Aug 2014 #74

I admire how he has managed relations with the country of Africa. AngryAmish Aug 2014 #94

I feel the same way emsimon33 Aug 2014 #81

When many of us assert that the Clintons are slimy, this is an example of what we mean... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2014 #17

At this point... freebrew Aug 2014 #18

No right to exist? leftynyc Aug 2014 #90

apparently, trying to take over more than allotted. freebrew Aug 2014 #103

Don't try and move the goalposts now leftynyc Aug 2014 #113

Again, Nazi Germany no longer exists. freebrew Aug 2014 #117

Ah - I see you're doubling down leftynyc Aug 2014 #119

Duh! freebrew Aug 2014 #122

Perhaps leftynyc Aug 2014 #123

Right, freebrew Aug 2014 #124

They wiped out the entire leftynyc Aug 2014 #125

"a possible presidential run"? LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #19

HRC trashes Hamas, Obama, the U.N. & anyone anguished over dead women & kids. Divernan Aug 2014 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2014 #27

. Agschmid Aug 2014 #28

I'm replying not to you Agschmid but in response to JohnTheBuilder or "Name Removed" above. LiberalLovinLug Aug 2014 #42

I agree with you. cpwm17 Aug 2014 #56

I used to be on MIRT. ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #106

I said practically the same thing on another thread.. with no problems.. Cha Aug 2014 #114

"that failure left a big vacuum" Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #29

Using the word "failure" is a knife in pres. Obama's back loyalsister Aug 2014 #82

I know exactly what she's doing but many here will hate to hear it.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #84

What a poor excuse for a human being cpwm17 Aug 2014 #30

I'll vote for Hillary for the Supreme Court alone. I'd vote for anybody over a Republican. Zen Democrat Aug 2014 #33

yes we are pretty much like cows in a herd LiberalLovinLug Aug 2014 #36

Sheep ... GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #38

Your other option is staying home leftynyc Aug 2014 #91

Retire Hillary. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #37

Just another republican in a different guise albino65 Aug 2014 #39

Yep emsimon33 Aug 2014 #80

If Hillary Clinton is ever elected President...... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #41

I won't vote for her in the Primary but if she is the nominee katmondoo Aug 2014 #43

I won't vote for her in the Primary but if she is the nominee Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #48

I recently moved from a safe red state to a safe blue one d_b Aug 2014 #51

Good grief. Go away. BlueStater Aug 2014 #52

She just lost my vote.... americannightmare Aug 2014 #54

She makes its hard for to support her in the primary RandySF Aug 2014 #55

exactly my feelings loveandlight Aug 2014 #65

Paul Wolfowitz in a pantsuit. QC Aug 2014 #58

Hope she wears newer socks..... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #120

Her criticism is incoherent fujiyama Aug 2014 #59

This is why the though of Hillary Clinton as president scares me davidpdx Aug 2014 #63

Yet some DUers support her candidacy for president. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #64

Oh brother ... such red meat for Hillary bashing ... cosmicone Aug 2014 #66

Sounds like HRC would even be worse than President Obama. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #67

Bad talking point. joshcryer Aug 2014 #68

barf Agony Aug 2014 #69

Yet another strike against me voting for her in 2016... elzenmahn Aug 2014 #71

Clearly, what's wrong with this country is we don't fight enough wars. stranger81 Aug 2014 #72

The one with the Police State trying to take charge. DeSwiss Aug 2014 #121

Already running an excellent campaign for '92 yurbud Aug 2014 #75

The right will use this to paint Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2014 #76

Madam Thatcher shall make an excellent president. SolutionisSolidarity Aug 2014 #77

This is one of the reason I voted for Obama & not Hillary emsimon33 Aug 2014 #79

Non-Corporate Democrats MUST... ReRe Aug 2014 #85

WTF? blackspade Aug 2014 #86

Clearly, the failure to build a coalition between Islamists and secularists in Syria BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #87

Serious question: AngryOldDem Aug 2014 #89

+ 100 n/t MBS Aug 2014 #95

I was not happy about her comments, especially about the TIMING of her comments MBS Aug 2014 #96

So well said, MBS.. Thank you! Cha Aug 2014 #115

I will never vote for Hillary in a primary. Jester Messiah Aug 2014 #97

If she ends up the nominee things like this will make it hard to vote for her Marrah_G Aug 2014 #98

Hillary is gonna be worse then Obama Reter Aug 2014 #99

Oh good grief, woman! procon Aug 2014 #101

Clinton thinks she needs to talk tough, just because she is a woman. Orsino Aug 2014 #102

She needs to talk smart. amandabeech Aug 2014 #105

Hope she can win the election without the "hippie" vote Kelvin Mace Aug 2014 #104

Damn, she is blood thirsty. ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #107

she is echoing the liberal media's talking heads Douglas Carpenter Aug 2014 #108

Because Supreme Court choices make all the difference kiranon Aug 2014 #109

Here ya go..... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #116

Hillery is owned by the Israelis like all our politicians . geretogo Aug 2014 #110

Wow, I'm really losing my respect for her Liberal_from_va34 Aug 2014 #111