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103. I am NOT defending lax rape laws

Reply to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #101)

Wed Aug 13, 2014, 09:55 AM

Aug 2014

Rape is a terrible crime. Terrible to suffer through and it has lasting consequences for victims.

This kid was 16 when this incident happened. Should he spend his life in jail? They threw the book at this kid and got the best punishment they could. And deservedly so. But like it or not, he has fulfilled his debt to society.

Many of the comments in this thread appear to be related to his participation in football. Is what this guy does for 3 months during his senior year really that important? Is high school football some mystic activity where he becomes a idolized hero?

Trayvon Martin was older than this kid and everyone here referred to him as a innocent child who couldn't possibly have done what he was accused of.

Why is this kid treated here as a new Ted Bundy? A soul undeserving of any leniency or forgiveness?

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Steubenville rapist is back on the football team [View all] n2doc Aug 2014 OP

Hey, he paid his dues, right? CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2014 #1

What further punishments should this kid undergo? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2014 #3

Keep those ideas coming - I like some of them derby378 Aug 2014 #5

Why stop there? There are lots of things outside the law that you can do to him. You can put him in 24601 Aug 2014 #19

One year in juvvie for rape? derby378 Aug 2014 #22

You had a chance to be reasonable and instead said keep the ideas coming - when they 24601 Aug 2014 #37

So saying that he got a slap on the wrist The Green Manalishi Aug 2014 #47

You are making absolutely no sense as you argue with yourself here. Just so you know. Squinch Aug 2014 #51

Did you miss the sarcasm alert? I'm arguing with those who would lock up a young black man for 24601 Aug 2014 #57

No one said anything about his race, so you can drop that pea-brained straw man. People are Squinch Aug 2014 #59

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #60

That is absolutely asinine. And it is disgusting to compare this rapist with Trevon Martin. Squinch Aug 2014 #63

Have you actually read the posts in this thread with implications of executions or castration. If 24601 Aug 2014 #67

Not one person in this thread came out in favor of execution or castration Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #68

His parole and probation conditions would seem to exclude his nilesobek Aug 2014 #97

It's about rape, RAPE, abuse, VIOLENCE without conscience. Don't you dare make this a race call. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #72

You are making an ass of yourself with your sick comments. First, this rapist is not like Treyvon Squinch Aug 2014 #95

So are you opposed to schools kicking students off the team for bad grades? Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #62

Well, excuse me for not being politically correct about punishing rapists... derby378 Aug 2014 #89

Good answer 7962 Aug 2014 #35

Maybe he shouldn't be allowed to wear a helmet Orrex Aug 2014 #7

Not for ruining somebody's life, no. nt alp227 Aug 2014 #8

Agreed, we'll let him "get on with his life" when his victim can get on with hers derby378 Aug 2014 #10

Chemical castration Omaha Steve Aug 2014 #9

I agree....maybe people should read beyond the headlines and look into the details.... George II Aug 2014 #11

WTF is you all's obsession with pointing out that black men were executed for rape? Did anyone Squinch Aug 2014 #52

actually his comparison has some merit dsc Aug 2014 #102

Yeah maybe you should look into the details of what the victim went through. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #75

To both of those who responded to me above.... George II Aug 2014 #77

Another stab at a phony argument. What a pity he didn't hang himself before raping an innocent girl. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #79

It's rather common for teenagers get kicked off extra-curricular activities for merely drinking alco LanternWaste Aug 2014 #15

Are you kidding me? cosmicone Aug 2014 #17

He should be spending at least 20 years in the worst prison in Ohio . . . Brigid Aug 2014 #32

He should probably remain in an institution until he is around 25 Ash_F Aug 2014 #36

Meanwhile, the victim will have to live with her rape for the rest of her life. radicalliberal Aug 2014 #46

The cluelessness of this post is astonishing. Squinch Aug 2014 #53

I suppose that asking for him to be punished pennylane100 Aug 2014 #73

I agree with you davidpdx Aug 2014 #76

Football is a privilege, not a god-given right Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #91

How about another 25 years in jail for starters? PoutrageFatigue Aug 2014 #92

Let's have the father of the victim pick his punishment GOLGO 13 Aug 2014 #98

He should be diverted to an alternative school for the remainder of his career. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #105

get caught mercuryblues Aug 2014 #111

incident occured at the local DA's home Adam051188 Aug 2014 #2

+1 exactly lunasun Aug 2014 #43

I think he should have gotten a much longer sentence than he did dsc Aug 2014 #4

Agree with your whole post. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #6

Punished? chervilant Aug 2014 #12

a school is not part of the justice system. prison isnt the only penalty mopinko Aug 2014 #21

again where does it stop dsc Aug 2014 #29

i have no problem with stripping privileges from sex offenders. mopinko Aug 2014 #31

It isn't a university it is a high school dsc Aug 2014 #33

ok, i stand correct. nonetheless, we arent talking about attending school. mopinko Aug 2014 #34

no it isn't dsc Aug 2014 #40

Uhmm, let's see drug dealing, or rape. which is worse. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #78

In your mind rape is clearly worse dsc Aug 2014 #87

Well that kid actually had a choice. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #107

so again you get to have your norms enforced without any judical oversight dsc Aug 2014 #109

So is he a registered sex offender ...yet? L0oniX Aug 2014 #13

all is forgiven if you are a football star nt msongs Aug 2014 #14

1 year for Rape? lib87 Aug 2014 #16

The priorities in Steubenville are clear underpants Aug 2014 #23

Football players and all male athletes are treated under a diferent "code" redstatebluegirl Aug 2014 #18

Think how differently we might view him if he were our son, our neighbor, someone we know. QuestForSense Aug 2014 #20

You think THAT'S forever for a teenager? derby378 Aug 2014 #24

Yes I do and no I wouldn't. QuestForSense Aug 2014 #27

Yes you would... derby378 Aug 2014 #30

He's not the victim here theHandpuppet Aug 2014 #25

Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #26

Suggesting the rapist is the victim is truly repulsive Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #44

+ a brazillion derby378 Aug 2014 #90

You would never know it from some of the sick responses here. And cue the Squinch Aug 2014 #54

Really?!? chervilant Aug 2014 #28

Really? You find it grossly offensive if I suggest the victimizer might be sorry? QuestForSense Aug 2014 #41

Taking the side of the rapist, and then calling a poster "miss" while you chastise her. Your Squinch Aug 2014 #56

You already told us in your now hidden post that you consider the rapist to be the victim Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #66

Please, chervilant Aug 2014 #70

Oh so now you go all sensitive Kalidurga Aug 2014 #84

I find it unsettling that you've yet to make mention of the actual victim herself... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #88

If it was my son, christx30 Aug 2014 #39

I'm not cutting a rapist ANY slack, ever. They will do it repeatedly. alarimer Aug 2014 #50

I hope your quest continues... City Lights Aug 2014 #61

He obviously has a long quest ahead of him if he ever hopes to reach sense Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #65

OMG, are you for real. WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #81

The law allows him to return to playing football after serving his time bluestateguy Aug 2014 #38

I can't believe people are comparing people JoeyT Aug 2014 #42

I wish gaspee Aug 2014 #45

This is not a racial issue, folks! n/t radicalliberal Aug 2014 #48

Fitting indeed edgineered Aug 2014 #55

This is the most rank thread I have ever seen here, and that is saying something. Squinch Aug 2014 #58

Now they are comparing this rapist to Trevon Martin as if the rapist is a martyr. This is Squinch Aug 2014 #64

+1 historylovr Aug 2014 #74

He should, at the very least, not be allowed to play football. alarimer Aug 2014 #49

They shouldn't let a rapist back in school A Little Weird Aug 2014 #69

Are the Steelers interested? U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #71

He'll have to go to Florida State first n/t n2doc Aug 2014 #85

nice U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #106

I'm curious if the kid is an outstanding player that they feel can help them win? brewens Aug 2014 #80

Are there any girls on any of the nearby teams? LeftyMom Aug 2014 #82

Football is a priviledge DonCoquixote Aug 2014 #83

Michael Vick says hey. n/t Orsino Aug 2014 #86

at least they were held accountable- these guys just got off with no punishment whatsoever J_J_ Aug 2014 #93

if anyone wants to comment on this topic on another thread J_J_ Aug 2014 #94

Who gives a shit if he plays HS football. Calista241 Aug 2014 #96

If he stays in Steubenville in sure he'll be fine. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #99

He's still only 17 years old Calista241 Aug 2014 #100

He's out and free to rape again. ForgoTheConsequence Aug 2014 #101

I am NOT defending lax rape laws Calista241 Aug 2014 #103

Did Treyvon rape someone? No. Threw the book at him? WCLinolVir Aug 2014 #108

He was 16. Calista241 Aug 2014 #110

The rape happened? He is screwed? Excuse me, but he committed rape - and screwed himself. Ms. Toad Aug 2014 #104