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25. You seriously think the Army is going to permit "DIY" treatment of Ms. Manning?

Wed Aug 13, 2014, 09:26 AM

Aug 2014

Come on. There is what's called a "standard of care" and she deserves to have it.

If she died from one of those blood clots, the outrage would be extreme. They'd be accused of killing her and the conspiracy theorists would have a field day.

She deserves to have treatment from doctors who are experienced in delivering this kind of treatment, not "DIY" or "earn as you learn." And the military doesn't offer it, so her only recourse--and she's known about this for a half year, at least--is to go to a federal facility to get the treatment.

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Attorney: Manning not receiving hormone therapy [View all] DonViejo Aug 2014 OP

Seems pretty cut and dry--the treatment has been pre-approved. hlthe2b Aug 2014 #1

If it's been approved by SecDef Hagel, IronGate Aug 2014 #2

I think I know why, but this is just a guess. MADem Aug 2014 #6

I predicted she'd have to move earlier in the year...like Butner or another msanthrope Aug 2014 #32

It's closer to "restriction" that never ends, as opposed to MADem Aug 2014 #36

I dated enough military to know what that means. LOL msanthrope Aug 2014 #38

Maybe Manning wants to refuse.... FarPoint Aug 2014 #3

Manning was supposed to be transferred to a civilian prison for the treatment Yo_Mama Aug 2014 #4

See upthread--Manning doesn't want a transfer, is what I read. MADem Aug 2014 #7

It's just hormone therapy. Nothing like open heart surgery. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #9

That's not accurate. There's psychological counseling and medical issues that arise from the MADem Aug 2014 #10

Still nothing like open-heart surgery. And still nothing that couldn't be done in a military prison. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #11

And still nothing that military medicine is prepared to handle with the professionalism of those MADem Aug 2014 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Cal Carpenter Aug 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author MADem Aug 2014 #28

As someone who is transgender and is on hormones, you are overcomplicating this MillennialDem Aug 2014 #24

You seriously think the Army is going to permit "DIY" treatment of Ms. Manning? MADem Aug 2014 #25

I'm not saying they should allow DIY. I'm just saying that because of how simple it is MillennialDem Aug 2014 #27

To visit her in her isolation cell? MADem Aug 2014 #29

Are you saying MillennialDem Aug 2014 #30

I am saying that she isn't suicidal, she's not being segregated for her MADem Aug 2014 #33

Your last paragraph would be of course ideal. Comment on your other two paragraphs MillennialDem Aug 2014 #35

Well, I understand that they've given her some female undergarments, but MADem Aug 2014 #37

It's not rocket surgery. The Planned Parenthood clinics here do it. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #52

I don't see it happening. The standard of care would not be met. MADem Aug 2014 #55

Look, this is your discomfort talking. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #57

That was my understanding - that the Pentagon would authorize the transfer Yo_Mama Aug 2014 #51

I am not a medical professional, but I know that with the understanding of MADem Aug 2014 #53

It's well-established that denying hormone therapy to trans prisoners is unconstitutional. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #5

She hasn't been denied. She just doesn't want to leave Leavenworth. MADem Aug 2014 #8

Who's paying for this? Adrahil Aug 2014 #12

If we don't want the government paying for the health care of people in prison Unvanguard Aug 2014 #13

I won;t disagree with that, but.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #16

It's not an elective treatment. It's a medically necessary treatment. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #17

Why doesn't insurance cover it? Adrahil Aug 2014 #18

It's a complicated story. The short answer is that they're behind. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #19

Has Manning had such a determination? Adrahil Aug 2014 #22

You shouldn't have to file a federal lawsuit to get your legal rights respected. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #34

Elective treatment isn't an automatic right for Federal prisoners. Adrahil Aug 2014 #46

Again, it's not elective treatment. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #47

Yes, I've seen that... Adrahil Aug 2014 #59

Insurance does cover transgender medical care ga_girl Aug 2014 #54

What if they didn't start the process yet? Reter Aug 2014 #20

Yes - what difference does that make? MillennialDem Aug 2014 #26

The only problem I would have is the cost Reter Aug 2014 #58

Some thoughts MillennialDem Aug 2014 #60

We. the people, are. nt MADem Aug 2014 #15

The military would probably pay for it. NobodyHere Aug 2014 #48

Leavenworth will have to bring in a Doctor to treat the prisoner, or train one of theirs! Sunlei Aug 2014 #21

I wouldn't think it would be hard.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #23

And where will she live? Leavenworth has no space for her if she undergoes msanthrope Aug 2014 #31

34 year sentence? The Military and the Gov. can find some space. They will have to learn to Sunlei Aug 2014 #41

Um...no. They don't accept trangender personnel in the regular msanthrope Aug 2014 #43

The only female prison the military has is near San Diego NobodyHere Aug 2014 #49

She can't go to a female military prison...she will still have her male msanthrope Aug 2014 #50

I view it the way I view hospitals. Calista241 Aug 2014 #39

Our Military spends 300? billion a year on Veterans medical treatments. They will have to learn. Sunlei Aug 2014 #42

The entire military cost $672B in 2013 Calista241 Aug 2014 #44

Because the Army will have to learn to change, to accommodate our Vets health care. Sunlei Aug 2014 #45

The funding stream supporting prisons is not the same as the funding stream supporting veterans or MADem Aug 2014 #56