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29. To visit her in her isolation cell?

Wed Aug 13, 2014, 09:43 AM

Aug 2014

They aren't going to let a pre-operative woman live with men, and they aren't going to let her live with the women, either.

If she gets treated there, she'll be stuck in solitary.

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Attorney: Manning not receiving hormone therapy [View all] DonViejo Aug 2014 OP

Seems pretty cut and dry--the treatment has been pre-approved. hlthe2b Aug 2014 #1

If it's been approved by SecDef Hagel, IronGate Aug 2014 #2

I think I know why, but this is just a guess. MADem Aug 2014 #6

I predicted she'd have to move earlier in the year...like Butner or another msanthrope Aug 2014 #32

It's closer to "restriction" that never ends, as opposed to MADem Aug 2014 #36

I dated enough military to know what that means. LOL msanthrope Aug 2014 #38

Maybe Manning wants to refuse.... FarPoint Aug 2014 #3

Manning was supposed to be transferred to a civilian prison for the treatment Yo_Mama Aug 2014 #4

See upthread--Manning doesn't want a transfer, is what I read. MADem Aug 2014 #7

It's just hormone therapy. Nothing like open heart surgery. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #9

That's not accurate. There's psychological counseling and medical issues that arise from the MADem Aug 2014 #10

Still nothing like open-heart surgery. And still nothing that couldn't be done in a military prison. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #11

And still nothing that military medicine is prepared to handle with the professionalism of those MADem Aug 2014 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author Cal Carpenter Aug 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author MADem Aug 2014 #28

As someone who is transgender and is on hormones, you are overcomplicating this MillennialDem Aug 2014 #24

You seriously think the Army is going to permit "DIY" treatment of Ms. Manning? MADem Aug 2014 #25

I'm not saying they should allow DIY. I'm just saying that because of how simple it is MillennialDem Aug 2014 #27

To visit her in her isolation cell? MADem Aug 2014 #29

Are you saying MillennialDem Aug 2014 #30

I am saying that she isn't suicidal, she's not being segregated for her MADem Aug 2014 #33

Your last paragraph would be of course ideal. Comment on your other two paragraphs MillennialDem Aug 2014 #35

Well, I understand that they've given her some female undergarments, but MADem Aug 2014 #37

It's not rocket surgery. The Planned Parenthood clinics here do it. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #52

I don't see it happening. The standard of care would not be met. MADem Aug 2014 #55

Look, this is your discomfort talking. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #57

That was my understanding - that the Pentagon would authorize the transfer Yo_Mama Aug 2014 #51

I am not a medical professional, but I know that with the understanding of MADem Aug 2014 #53

It's well-established that denying hormone therapy to trans prisoners is unconstitutional. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #5

She hasn't been denied. She just doesn't want to leave Leavenworth. MADem Aug 2014 #8

Who's paying for this? Adrahil Aug 2014 #12

If we don't want the government paying for the health care of people in prison Unvanguard Aug 2014 #13

I won;t disagree with that, but.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #16

It's not an elective treatment. It's a medically necessary treatment. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #17

Why doesn't insurance cover it? Adrahil Aug 2014 #18

It's a complicated story. The short answer is that they're behind. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #19

Has Manning had such a determination? Adrahil Aug 2014 #22

You shouldn't have to file a federal lawsuit to get your legal rights respected. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #34

Elective treatment isn't an automatic right for Federal prisoners. Adrahil Aug 2014 #46

Again, it's not elective treatment. Unvanguard Aug 2014 #47

Yes, I've seen that... Adrahil Aug 2014 #59

Insurance does cover transgender medical care ga_girl Aug 2014 #54

What if they didn't start the process yet? Reter Aug 2014 #20

Yes - what difference does that make? MillennialDem Aug 2014 #26

The only problem I would have is the cost Reter Aug 2014 #58

Some thoughts MillennialDem Aug 2014 #60

We. the people, are. nt MADem Aug 2014 #15

The military would probably pay for it. NobodyHere Aug 2014 #48

Leavenworth will have to bring in a Doctor to treat the prisoner, or train one of theirs! Sunlei Aug 2014 #21

I wouldn't think it would be hard.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #23

And where will she live? Leavenworth has no space for her if she undergoes msanthrope Aug 2014 #31

34 year sentence? The Military and the Gov. can find some space. They will have to learn to Sunlei Aug 2014 #41

Um...no. They don't accept trangender personnel in the regular msanthrope Aug 2014 #43

The only female prison the military has is near San Diego NobodyHere Aug 2014 #49

She can't go to a female military prison...she will still have her male msanthrope Aug 2014 #50

I view it the way I view hospitals. Calista241 Aug 2014 #39

Our Military spends 300? billion a year on Veterans medical treatments. They will have to learn. Sunlei Aug 2014 #42

The entire military cost $672B in 2013 Calista241 Aug 2014 #44

Because the Army will have to learn to change, to accommodate our Vets health care. Sunlei Aug 2014 #45

The funding stream supporting prisons is not the same as the funding stream supporting veterans or MADem Aug 2014 #56