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Fri Aug 15, 2014, 03:41 PM

Aug 2014

Efilroft Sul Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:55 AM

Police identify officer, allege teen robbed store

Associated Press
By DAVID A. LIEB and ALAN SCHER ZAGIER
35 minutes ago

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — Police on Friday identified the officer who fatally shot an unarmed black teenager and released documents alleging the young man had been suspected of stealing a $48.99 box of cigars from a convenience store in a "strong-arm" robbery shortly before he was killed.

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Michael Brown suspect in robbery before he was shot to death, police say [View all] Bacchus4.0 Aug 2014 OP

And i say you cannot shoot shoplifters. bravenak Aug 2014 #1

Exactly! FarPoint Aug 2014 #2

It was cigars, not cows for God'sake! DearAbby Aug 2014 #129

The cop murders this boy and then murders his reputation JimDandy Aug 2014 #145

And unarmed in the middle of the street at high noon with a friend smoking a stolen cigar. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #9

Who tha fuck said he had ANY Cigars in his mouth? Did you see video of him smoking? bravenak Aug 2014 #38

You missed the sarcasm, sorry, it is always a risk...I meant to imply doing even abnormal things, Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #43

I tend to be easy to agitate. bravenak Aug 2014 #46

This is such utter bullshit JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #10

But you gotta understand.... bravenak Aug 2014 #28

I just looked at the image again JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #37

My husband too. bravenak Aug 2014 #40

Khaki shorts, grey t-shirt. bravenak Aug 2014 #45

Um JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #48

I just want to jump off the roof when shit like this goes down. bravenak Aug 2014 #53

Can you find some of the links JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #56

I'll look. bravenak Aug 2014 #63

It was the ballcap that was red. bravenak Aug 2014 #151

Thanks JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #165

I was too. bravenak Aug 2014 #167

70 ?maybe even if he didn't get off the street and maybe mouthed off at a cop lunasun Aug 2014 #191

I'm sorry - that just makes me feel ill. calimary Aug 2014 #69

Disgusting. bravenak Aug 2014 #92

and like Trayvon Martin, they can assassinate his character and he can't defend his own name CreekDog Aug 2014 #207

Earlier the police said Brown had no record alp227 Aug 2014 #71

That's what I thought JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #73

And its an interesting choice of words PatSeg Aug 2014 #11

good point... dhill926 Aug 2014 #17

"Strong arm robbery." The police chief kept saying it over & over in the presser, CrispyQ Aug 2014 #64

Did you see the surveillance photographs? George II Aug 2014 #88

They didn't show photos or video footage at the time of the presser. -nt CrispyQ Aug 2014 #136

The stills have been all over CNN and MSNBC all morning, the videos were just released George II Aug 2014 #153

When everyone knows PatSeg Aug 2014 #93

They tried the same thing with Trevon Martin. RoverSuswade Aug 2014 #99

Try to criminalize the victim PatSeg Aug 2014 #143

'Strong-arm robbery' is a term used where the offender used any degree of force, it's a felony Baclava Aug 2014 #156

Images of the body in the street very much match those of the man here. Roland99 Aug 2014 #163

exactly BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #193

link to images? thanks wordpix Aug 2014 #216

The post to which I replied Roland99 Aug 2014 #243

"Robbery" means a physical or verbal confrontation most places Recursion Aug 2014 #150

I worked in retail for years in Illinois PatSeg Aug 2014 #176

Strong arm robbery warrant46 Aug 2014 #244

Cops shooting people over material possessions is always wrong. L0oniX Aug 2014 #12

Exactly. This reminds me how some cops don't give a shit who they might kill valerief Aug 2014 #20

No you cannot shoot them however you can stop and question suspects cstanleytech Aug 2014 #55

Per the witness statement ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #70

See #75 cstanleytech Aug 2014 #80

It's not simply a case of shoplifting.....people should really wait to get the whole story.. George II Aug 2014 #87

Bullshit!! bravenak Aug 2014 #96

Oh...I see now....it was the convenience store's clerk who was at fault! George II Aug 2014 #119

What was? bravenak Aug 2014 #121

Actually you can hold shoplifters hostage Reter Aug 2014 #130

Do that at your own risk. bravenak Aug 2014 #131

Preventing a robber/shoplifter from leaving isn't a "hostage situation" George II Aug 2014 #157

Yes it is to the holdee. bravenak Aug 2014 #160

Now you know why many shop owners are armed Reter Aug 2014 #212

Why is letting him go not an 'option'? bravenak Aug 2014 #213

So if you see someone open your car door and take a CD or two of equal value, let him go Reter Aug 2014 #228

Um, yea. bravenak Aug 2014 #229

Only a fool would give money to a theif Reter Aug 2014 #232

Jesus would give money to a thief. bravenak Aug 2014 #233

We're not Jesus Reter Aug 2014 #234

We should be. bravenak Aug 2014 #235

I give to the poor all the time, despite being borderline poor myself Reter Aug 2014 #239

That's nice. bravenak Aug 2014 #240

I give stuff away that I don't need Reter Aug 2014 #241

You shouldn't. bravenak Aug 2014 #242

I worked at a gas station too and they did not care what the customers stole and we were told. notadmblnd Aug 2014 #161

Exactly.. bravenak Aug 2014 #162

I think its interesting PatSeg Aug 2014 #104

This, yes, exactly. n/t DeadLetterOffice Aug 2014 #127

I am with Delphinus Aug 2014 #146

And the police chief PatSeg Aug 2014 #230

what's really fishy is why Brown got 2 first shots in the back while running wordpix Aug 2014 #218

I hadn't heard about the tweets PatSeg Aug 2014 #231

???? heaven05 Aug 2014 #113

The real headline should be: savalez Aug 2014 #115

Bingo!! bravenak Aug 2014 #120

Don't Buy The Lie billhicks76 Aug 2014 #204

totally agree and if you want to stop someone big and bad wordpix Aug 2014 #214

I think he shot him, then realized that it was a mistake . bravenak Aug 2014 #215

you've got a plausible theory wordpix Aug 2014 #219

I bet one of us has it right. bravenak Aug 2014 #220

definitely a coverup by PD. The chief was positively incoherent today wordpix Aug 2014 #221

by these witnesses' reports, there was a tussle at the cop car first wordpix Aug 2014 #222

That's what i think too. bravenak Aug 2014 #223

another eyewitness account wordpix Aug 2014 #226

Funny how everyone BUT THE COPS have the same story. bravenak Aug 2014 #227

Unfortunately, we're finding that police can shoot black people for any reasons Kennah Aug 2014 #236

Yes. bravenak Aug 2014 #237

So is the person robbing the store in the video Browm? bigdarryl Aug 2014 #3

I think there is little doubt....now what happened in between? Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #5

I think there is still a LOT of doubt. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #22

The Ferguson police would have more evidence than just the video to make a positive I.D. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #29

Uh huh. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #39

Well, I am not trying to sell it, I am trying to say it like I see it, not like the media sees it. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #41

And you don't find it highly suspicious that they released this after 6 days? NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #58

Well, let me just say I have had personal experience with the irrational exuberance of youth and Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #76

OBVIOUSLY..... LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #83

Of course the scenario breaks down at THREE, infinite variables of fact and response after that. Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #85

yes...you call for back up first... FarPoint Aug 2014 #101

Hold on here BobbyBoring Aug 2014 #206

No, a competent police department would have more evidence jeff47 Aug 2014 #89

What I would like to see.... ReRe Aug 2014 #140

Little doubt? ballyhoo Aug 2014 #31

Is there any original reporting of that "robbery" in the press? I haven't seen shit about it. L0oniX Aug 2014 #23

That's a good question... ReRe Aug 2014 #141

I'm calling this ...media bullshit. L0oniX Aug 2014 #4

Creation of a convenient charge subsequent to a more serious one to the cop. ballyhoo Aug 2014 #42

He just shoplifted some stupid cigars! SaltyBro Aug 2014 #6

Until he's been tried in a court of law JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #50

He didn't shoplift anything. That's not him in the photo. savalez Aug 2014 #82

If it were the same person cojoel Aug 2014 #139

Actually, we didn't all do that. nt Codeine Aug 2014 #149

you stole stuff as a teenager? Recursion Aug 2014 #152

I shoplifted as a teenager cheapdate Aug 2014 #205

Whether Brown punched the officer in the car or not aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2014 #7

It took them a week to come up with this story??? crazylikafox Aug 2014 #8

Good point PatSeg Aug 2014 #14

The blue code choir had to rehearse the song. L0oniX Aug 2014 #16

I remember it being mentioned but I think the protests overshadowed this part of the story. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #26

My thoughts exactly. dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #27

Truly sounds like a story cooked up during late nights with some beer rurallib Aug 2014 #44

Even if it isn't "cooked", there is NO justification for what the police did. still_one Aug 2014 #77

IMO, the entire Ferguson Police Department has been lying their asses off the whole time! Crowman1979 Aug 2014 #13

But it does go to Brown and his companion's state of mind exboyfil Aug 2014 #15

Lots of unanswered questions yet n/t Bacchus4.0 Aug 2014 #18

Really ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #61

What happened to innocent until proven guilty? oldandhappy Aug 2014 #19

Where are the cigars? Where is the video from the store? Summary justice isn't justice. marble falls Aug 2014 #21

I fi d this suspect. Why take this long to release this and they never said cigars were found by his hrmjustin Aug 2014 #24

That's great and all d_b Aug 2014 #25

So this so called police department thinks that if you are a SUSPECT it is fine to shot you not once jwirr Aug 2014 #30

Darren Wilson ...suspected wife beater ...(police say) no ...I say! L0oniX Aug 2014 #32

I would not doubt it since he apparently has anger management issues wordpix Aug 2014 #224

Bull-fucking-shit! Iggo Aug 2014 #33

Once all the Corporate Media parrots this for long enough, it will make it so. harun Aug 2014 #178

We don't have the death penalty for robbery. Nye Bevan Aug 2014 #34

Did CNN even bother to mention this: leftynyc Aug 2014 #35

Shoplifting isn't robbery. Unless MO has some really unusual statutes, shoplifting is theft. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #36

Look at the snapshots of the video exboyfil Aug 2014 #59

What video? I didn't see one in the OP. Gormy Cuss Aug 2014 #65

It's posted on drudgereport ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #81

Whether the proximate cause of the apprehension of Brown was strongarm ballyhoo Aug 2014 #74

We Agree! LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #125

You've eliminated a possibility jberryhill Aug 2014 #154

Yes, because Police Officers frequently ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #47

Yes, that is just ... well this news stinks of a cover up or something. historylovr Aug 2014 #135

Besides ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #137

I didn't see that yet. Thanks. historylovr Aug 2014 #142

Police say? truth2power Aug 2014 #49

Here comes a mountain of bullshit BeyondGeography Aug 2014 #51

oh well that changes everything iamthebandfanman Aug 2014 #52

It doesnt change everything but it does change it a bit in that remember people cstanleytech Aug 2014 #68

If he was a suspect in the "robbery" then why did the officer yell at them to get out of the street? Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #54

Cops tend not to block the middle of streets or atleast in my area when they pull someone over its cstanleytech Aug 2014 #75

Are you intentionally leaving out the part about ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #84

No I am not intentionally leaving anything out so chill a bit. cstanleytech Aug 2014 #103

So you're just unfamiliar with the witness statement? eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #116

No, I am saying we need to wait as the investigation is not finished. nt cstanleytech Aug 2014 #200

we need to wait to talk about it until the investigation is finished? CreekDog Aug 2014 #208

Talking is fine, the rush to judgement one way or the other is what I am talking about. nt cstanleytech Aug 2014 #209

well apparently you want to wait for confirmation that it's not ok to kill an unarmed man CreekDog Aug 2014 #210

Wrong. I just prefer to know exactly happended for sure but clearly you dont. nt cstanleytech Aug 2014 #211

Here, this might help ... or not ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #90

Pretty damning stuff. savalez Aug 2014 #108

Perhaps you can clarify. CRH Aug 2014 #147

Do you own a truck ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #148

And.. bravenak Aug 2014 #155

You know them negroes have magical powers. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #164

No wonder they snatched us up. bravenak Aug 2014 #166

And, don't forget ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #168

Oh, they really think about that tooooo much!!! bravenak Aug 2014 #169

"why did the officer yell at them to get out of the street?" jberryhill Aug 2014 #158

Does the store have video evidence of Brown shoplifting cigars? muntrv Aug 2014 #57

Looks like they have video of a suspect in the store robbing and pushing a store clerk n/t Bacchus4.0 Aug 2014 #72

No - pushing a clerk that started the altercation. jeff47 Aug 2014 #95

Um. bravenak Aug 2014 #97

Yet the video shows the clerk starting the altercation. (nt) jeff47 Aug 2014 #171

Not following procedure is dangerous. bravenak Aug 2014 #174

What's the time stamp on the video for the act of robbery? LanternWaste Aug 2014 #203

All highly scripted by the head murderer. Trillo Aug 2014 #60

White-wing America needs Michael Brown to be a mortal.. Anansi1171 Aug 2014 #62

LET'S SPREAD THE FERGUSON POLICE DEPARTMENT SHAME!!!! LovingA2andMI Aug 2014 #66

I'm guessing Mike Brown was also in possession of yellowcake uranium. bullwinkle428 Aug 2014 #67

Prosecutors previously said Brown had no record alp227 Aug 2014 #78

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #86

I have a feeling that this killing ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #79

I think you're right. historylovr Aug 2014 #138

Jared Lee Loughner Tsiyu Aug 2014 #185

I don't understand the point you are trying to make. ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #188

My bad Tsiyu Aug 2014 #196

Oh, okay. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2014 #199

As far as I can make out he was a suspect for the robery because intaglio Aug 2014 #91

Or because he matched the description of the robbery suspect. Ace Rothstein Aug 2014 #102

And what would that description have been? intaglio Aug 2014 #107

Do you have a better way of identifying suspects in a crime? Ace Rothstein Aug 2014 #110

But officer Stop the Black Man intaglio Aug 2014 #117

Have you heard the radio message? Ace Rothstein Aug 2014 #118

Have you? A verbal transfer of a verbal description intaglio Aug 2014 #123

Simpering excuses? Hardly Ace Rothstein Aug 2014 #173

And your how is that description broadcast? intaglio Aug 2014 #177

I haven't made excuses for anything. Ace Rothstein Aug 2014 #182

But until now you have done nothing but sought excuses intaglio Aug 2014 #186

so the officer stopped the correct person and you are claiming racism? Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #181

Oh, so you are declaring Michael Brown guilty without trial intaglio Aug 2014 #189

I said it wasnt racism when the cop stoppes him Travis_0004 Aug 2014 #190

Unfortunately for you this police force intaglio Aug 2014 #192

Always this BS!!!!!!! heaven05 Aug 2014 #94

A "robbery" of swisher sweets? How about the Jameis Winston "robbery" of king crab legs? Zen Democrat Aug 2014 #97

Apparently, this story has been out on the street for a few days. gvstn Aug 2014 #100

It is also supposedly why "snitches get stitches" was spray painted on the QT. Ace Rothstein Aug 2014 #105

What is QT? gvstn Aug 2014 #109

The QuikTrip Ace Rothstein Aug 2014 #111

Thank you. gvstn Aug 2014 #112

I really don't give a crap if he had been a suspect in a triple homicide, a MADem Aug 2014 #106

Dear Governor Nixon & FergPolice-Bullshit fredamae Aug 2014 #114

Of Course the Cops Would NEVER Lie JCMach1 Aug 2014 #122

This is bait for the media, so all the coverage will be about what did/didn't happen at winter is coming Aug 2014 #124

+1, Bingo harun Aug 2014 #179

Street "justice" executed by vigilante peace officers can not & should not be tolerated. tea and oranges Aug 2014 #126

If you had just committed strong arm robbery... grasswire Aug 2014 #128

�f somebody strong arm robbed us.... bravenak Aug 2014 #134

And this wasn't reported right away because ... historylovr Aug 2014 #132

So what? That's not a good reason to shoot someone dead Liberal_from_va34 Aug 2014 #133

Robbery is not a death sentence case. Marrah_G Aug 2014 #144

Anyone -is this a matchup in the video or not ?read dif shoes ,shirt? Any opinions lunasun Aug 2014 #159

Didn't Ferguson PD claim they couldn't release the name of the... jayfish Aug 2014 #170

I call bullsh_t blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #172

Well one thing is for sure Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #175

Funny how one side of the story... jayfish Aug 2014 #180

Does it not trouble you that Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #238

The author of the OP seems to be following a trend. U4ikLefty Aug 2014 #183

Since when does petty theft merit the death penalty??? Vinca Aug 2014 #184

Sounds like the Chief has been coached by FOX "News" on what plays well on their channel. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #195

He wasn't shot because he committed a crime. He was shot because he didn't obey an rhett o rick Aug 2014 #187

This information was already posted in LBN this morning well before this thread was posted: Judi Lynn Aug 2014 #194

So what? The poster who reported got his posts hid and now its what everyone is talking about n/t Bacchus4.0 Aug 2014 #198

His thread is clearly still open. Would you point out where he went wrong? Judi Lynn Aug 2014 #201

You mean this one with the headline that CNN used which is exactly how LBN is supposed to reported? Bacchus4.0 Aug 2014 #202

live tweets at time of shooting from neighbor/witness here wordpix Aug 2014 #217

Well if it is true then they KNEW he didn't have a weapon. wildeyed Aug 2014 #197

since the chief admits the officer didn't know that, why does it matter? yurbud Aug 2014 #225