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14. What side who is on notwithstanding, I would far rather be

Reply to NickB79 (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:37 PM

Aug 2014

Russian Separatists holded up along the Russian border "in a few cities" than a Ukrainian military person (whatever that is) with a leader whose main activity seems to be beseeching on a daily basis for help. It's getting close to denouement. Let's see who one: Is winning militarily. And two: is creating a better image with the press. The greatest mistake by the West was encroaching on Russia's border for any reason, let alone to appropriate their gas contracts by shutting down supply lines.

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Rebels Down Ukrainian Warplane As Military Equipment �Arrives From Russia� [View all] Purveyor Aug 2014 OP

There should be shitloads of eastern Ukrainian men who want to fight and die for TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #1

Who has to "import" fighters? reorg Aug 2014 #17

Their 1200 fighters were supposedly trained in Russia. That may make their allegiance ballyhoo Aug 2014 #19

Russia to Rebels: Shut the fuck up! We're trying to get you "humanitarian aid" NickB79 Aug 2014 #2

They seem to lose a lot of those jets. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #3

Mostly old Russian Su-25's NickB79 Aug 2014 #4

Thanks for clearing that up. bemildred Aug 2014 #6

Su-25's went into service in 1978 NickB79 Aug 2014 #8

A lot of them seem to have working parachutes. bemildred Aug 2014 #9

I imagine the standard weapons load involves bombs, rockets, and a bottle of Vodka NickB79 Aug 2014 #11

There you go. bemildred Aug 2014 #13

The F-16 and F-15 were put into service in the 70's PersonNumber503602 Aug 2014 #15

Yup. Igel Aug 2014 #7

I have no doubts that Russia is arming and supporting the rebels, bemildred Aug 2014 #12

Once the air cover is gone cosmicone Aug 2014 #5

Air cover hasn't done much strategically so far NickB79 Aug 2014 #10

What side who is on notwithstanding, I would far rather be ballyhoo Aug 2014 #14

"encroaching on Russia's border" NickB79 Aug 2014 #20

Like I said: I'll let the Dutch decide MH17 not a bunch of Tweeters whose ballyhoo Aug 2014 #21

Pro-Russian sepratists lost the PR "battle" weeks ago Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #26

ummmmm........... cosmicone Aug 2014 #16

Ukraine has been asking for military assistance since day one NickB79 Aug 2014 #18

Perhaps Poroshenko would spend some of his own money cosmicone Aug 2014 #22

"Freedom Fighters"... that's a good one. NT Adrahil Aug 2014 #23

Cute term, isn't it? ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #24

You said freedom fighters? IronGate Aug 2014 #27

This whole thing is a confusing mess. Owl Aug 2014 #25