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cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
13. Ukraine has perpetuated lies from the get go
Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:45 PM
Aug 2014

1. A tape of a purported Russian officer giving orders. It turned out said officer has been dead for years.

2. All the misinformation re: MH17 when it turns out that Ukraine was diverting civilian aircraft and using them as shields for its fighter jets. Even the route of MH17 was altered by Kiev air traffic control minutes before it was hit.

3. The "Buk" seen leaving the scene with one missile missing was found to be Ukrainian and not Russian. Also, the scenery was unlike where the MH17 was shot down.

I am sure other DUers will have more examples.

On the other hand, Russians have been very measured and diplomatic. Even the White House and Germany have now resolved not to believe Ukraine and have ratcheted the rhetoric down accordingly.

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Ukraine keeps spewing lies and suckers believe them n/t cosmicone Aug 2014 #1
Just wondering if thats based on fact in this specific case or just opinion? cstanleytech Aug 2014 #2
Prolly because oligarch-putin teevee said so... n/t Amonester Aug 2014 #3
They have a track record newthinking Aug 2014 #4
Of course how could I forget the guilty because of a track record !!!!! cstanleytech Aug 2014 #6
the Kiev neo Nazis Billy Budd Aug 2014 #5
Out of curiosity, how long do you think that transcript would be karynnj Aug 2014 #21
the transcript of the whole flight Billy Budd Aug 2014 #26
Ukraine has perpetuated lies from the get go cosmicone Aug 2014 #13
+1 for paying attention newthinking Aug 2014 #16
Why would Ukraine move civilians towards known refugee camps & fire on their own refugee convoy? Sunlei Aug 2014 #8
Why have they shelled water and sanitation and for many months newthinking Aug 2014 #17
humanitarian corridors? there's only one road along that whole border trucks can drive on. Sunlei Aug 2014 #18
Anyone who has spend energy researching the truth newthinking Aug 2014 #19
Victoria Shilova - Ukrainian MP speaks out about the truth newthinking Aug 2014 #20
How can you tell a Ukraine government official is lying? MattSh Aug 2014 #15
I mean jamzrockz Aug 2014 #7
+1 n/t cosmicone Aug 2014 #14
time line is off by days - those claims were days ago - this very recent ny karynnj Aug 2014 #22
They said they destroyed a Russian "humanitarian" convoy. Igel Aug 2014 #23
Ridiculous. So the Separatists killed family and friends escaping back ballyhoo Aug 2014 #9
Doesn't make any sense, does it? LisaL Aug 2014 #10
No. At least some of the previous stories were somewhat ballyhoo Aug 2014 #11
Why is it ridiculous? Igel Aug 2014 #24
I appreciate your attention to detail, Igel. Unfortunately, ballyhoo Aug 2014 #25
"working with my team" ?? karynnj Aug 2014 #27
Yes. Logical is what we determine seems right based on ballyhoo Aug 2014 #28
Again, who is "we" or "our team" karynnj Aug 2014 #29
I answered "yes" to your first question in your ballyhoo Aug 2014 #30
Almost as crazy as shooting down a passenger jet thinking it was a military transport NickB79 Aug 2014 #31
I say the plane was machine-gunned by either ballyhoo Aug 2014 #32
Ukraine crisis: 15 bodies found after strike on refugee convoy dipsydoodle Aug 2014 #12
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