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Fantastic Anarchist

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19. Not bullshit.

Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:09 PM

Aug 2014

We negotiate with terrorists all of the time ... if they have something to offer, like destabilizing a regime we don't like.

Your post is the one that's bullshit. They kidnap people regardless.

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Before Killing James Foley, ISIS Demanded Ransom From U.S. [View all] flamingdem Aug 2014 OP

Obama said "we don't pay ransom monies" but europe does, and did, and got their prisoners. TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #1

And that is why more Europeans are kidnapped frazzled Aug 2014 #13

Is this going to become the next House GOP investigation? Why didn't Obama pay a ransom? McCamy Taylor Aug 2014 #16

Whatever you pay for you get more of. Psephos Aug 2014 #68

Either action or inaction on ransoms is a loser. Paying gets more hostages taken but saves lives. kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #95

Other countries pay... FarPoint Aug 2014 #2

Seems like people who work in the ME need special insurance policies flamingdem Aug 2014 #3

Seems like they should stay out of there. former9thward Aug 2014 #23

Common sense. Psephos Aug 2014 #69

I'm furious about this. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #4

Bullshit. IronGate Aug 2014 #5

The US traded Gitmo prisoners for Bergdahl. candelista Aug 2014 #8

Different thing. Prisoner swap near the end of hostilities. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #9

So what? candelista Aug 2014 #11

1) The US Army had a clear responsibility to bring Bergdahl home, since they put TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #14

Excellent post leftynyc Aug 2014 #17

Actually not. candelista Aug 2014 #33

And it's a bit disturbing that you would also put American lives IronGate Aug 2014 #36

The deal we make with our military leftynyc Aug 2014 #38

"The deal we make with our military"? candelista Aug 2014 #40

You were never told leftynyc Aug 2014 #42

Tell that to all the MIAS. candelista Aug 2014 #48

BULLSHIT leftynyc Aug 2014 #50

Sure we have! :) candelista Aug 2014 #52

BULLSHIT. IronGate Aug 2014 #54

It's what I was told. IronGate Aug 2014 #49

Read this from Stars and Stripes candelista Aug 2014 #56

I don't give a fuck what you post, IronGate Aug 2014 #61

Brilliant repartee! candelista Aug 2014 #64

I wonder if he would intervene to stop genocide. Starboard Tack Aug 2014 #71

One might think that anyone resorting to the petulance of "brilliant repartee" would have sourced th LanternWaste Aug 2014 #96

Amen Iliyah Aug 2014 #75

The government doesn't have a responsibility to US citizens? candelista Aug 2014 #30

We sent the MILITARY to leftynyc Aug 2014 #46

The US HAS paid ransom in the recent past. candelista Aug 2014 #51

And look at the bloody dividends for that leftynyc Aug 2014 #58

I would gladly be activated from Reserve status to help exterminate this vermin. IronGate Aug 2014 #63

Thank you for your service leftynyc Aug 2014 #66

I think it would. IronGate Aug 2014 #67

Very reasoned post. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #53

So what? Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #20

We are not at the end (or near) of hostilities. former9thward Aug 2014 #24

They wanted the money from the company harun Aug 2014 #100

Not bullshit. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #19

That doesn't even make sense. IronGate Aug 2014 #26

To save lives. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #41

So we continue to feed these terrorists with money because they continue to IronGate Aug 2014 #44

They fucking do it anyway. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #65

So why continue to pay them if they're going to continue kidnap Americans? IronGate Aug 2014 #70

I've already answered your question once. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #72

So it's a vicious circle, IronGate Aug 2014 #73

We keep invading ... Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #76

Care to answer the question? nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #78

I did. Several times. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #79

And in the process, fund the opposition to more effectively carry our further ransom activities. LanternWaste Aug 2014 #97

They are already funded. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #98

A sad truth. Poor Foley. Sure seemed like a great dude. He knew what he was getting into. Man, zonkers Aug 2014 #83

Richard Engel on msnbc said all hostages are forced to convert to Islam flamingdem Aug 2014 #6

Your post covers it why it's not wise to pay terrorists for ransom, flamingdem.. So sad for Cha Aug 2014 #81

One hundred million dollars for more weapons to kidnap more people so they can do it again? McCamy Taylor Aug 2014 #15

The US has never negotiated for Americans captured by terrorists lunatica Aug 2014 #21

This has NOTHING to do with the "macho" characteristic you are inferring. These animals have been still_one Aug 2014 #29

I agree with you on this. n/t Paper Roses Aug 2014 #57

I'd rather support a full scale invasion cosmicone Aug 2014 #7

We've been there, done that & got the T-shirt. candelista Aug 2014 #10

The original Iraq war was stupid and I opposed it cosmicone Aug 2014 #18

It's depressing to have to explain this isn't it? lunatica Aug 2014 #22

Sorry you haz a sad. candelista Aug 2014 #27

no you can't. This is going after a criminal element who are killing innocent civilians, mostly still_one Aug 2014 #31

I understand this much: candelista Aug 2014 #35

It isn't war. It's a response to terrorists who can't wait to attack us in the US lunatica Aug 2014 #80

There were "moral reasons" then too, chrisa Aug 2014 #25

Congratulations on opposing the "stupid" original Iraq War. candelista Aug 2014 #28

Ok, can you point out the innocent bystanders that have been killed IronGate Aug 2014 #34

Point them out? candelista Aug 2014 #37

Have there been any reports of innocent bystanders being killed? nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #39

These things don't get reported until much later, if at all. candelista Aug 2014 #43

So, no reports? nt. IronGate Aug 2014 #47

:) candelista Aug 2014 #59

Pay ransom, get more hostages taken, it becomes an industry all unto itself. TwilightGardener Aug 2014 #12

Pay ransom, allows Isil to buy more weapons, and kill more people. Hmmmm. Not rocket science still_one Aug 2014 #32

Who gave weapons to IS in the first place? candelista Aug 2014 #45

ok...Why again is that important to what ISIS is doing now? Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #55

The lesson is that the US should get out and stay out of the Middle East candelista Aug 2014 #62

What a perfect way to prove leftynyc Aug 2014 #74

There's a reason why they think that ... Nihil Aug 2014 #85

At least for us it was better FrodosPet Aug 2014 #82

Most Iraqis rightly agree that things were better under Saddam. candelista Aug 2014 #86

Most of the weapons used by IS, at least in the early stages, were of Russian orgin. Kaleva Aug 2014 #87

"In the early stages"? candelista Aug 2014 #88

You are the one who made the claim it was the US that provided the arms to IS Kaleva Aug 2014 #89

You're wrong on this. candelista Aug 2014 #91

Kind of vague article Kaleva Aug 2014 #94

And the weapons they're using now IronGate Aug 2014 #90

Here. candelista Aug 2014 #92

I already read it. IronGate Aug 2014 #93

Déjà vu all over again, ucrdem Aug 2014 #60

truly. Estimates are 50k jihadis between Syria and Iraq flamingdem Aug 2014 #77

about 80? journalists have been killed. What media corp sent this journalist? Sunlei Aug 2014 #84

An outfit called Global Post flamingdem Aug 2014 #99