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In reply to the discussion: Before Killing James Foley, ISIS Demanded Ransom From U.S. [View all]candelista
(1,986 posts)64. Brilliant repartee!
At least I gave some evidence.
And if that's what you were told, they lied to you. That would not surprise you, would it?
Ever read this? It's by Marine General Smedley Butler, two time winner of the Medal of honor.
War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses.
I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.
It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.
I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/excerpt-from-marines-speech-proves-little-has-changed-in-80-years-2013-7#ixzz3B3UD07zu
I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else. If a nation comes over here to fight, then we'll fight. The trouble with America is that when the dollar only earns 6 percent over here, then it gets restless and goes overseas to get 100 percent. Then the flag follows the dollar and the soldiers follow the flag.
I wouldn't go to war again as I have done to protect some lousy investment of the bankers. There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.
There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It has its "finger men" to point out enemies, its "muscle men" to destroy enemies, its "brain men" to plan war preparations, and a "Big Boss" Super-Nationalistic-Capitalism.
It may seem odd for me, a military man to adopt such a comparison. Truthfulness compels me to. I spent thirty- three years and four months in active military service as a member of this country's most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commissioned ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-General. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle- man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism.
I suspected I was just part of a racket at the time. Now I am sure of it. Like all the members of the military profession, I never had a thought of my own until I left the service. My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military service.
I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912 (where have I heard that name before?). I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested.
During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/excerpt-from-marines-speech-proves-little-has-changed-in-80-years-2013-7#ixzz3B3UD07zu
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Obama said "we don't pay ransom monies" but europe does, and did, and got their prisoners.
TheNutcracker
Aug 2014
#1
Is this going to become the next House GOP investigation? Why didn't Obama pay a ransom?
McCamy Taylor
Aug 2014
#16
Either action or inaction on ransoms is a loser. Paying gets more hostages taken but saves lives.
kelliekat44
Aug 2014
#95
1) The US Army had a clear responsibility to bring Bergdahl home, since they put
TwilightGardener
Aug 2014
#14
One might think that anyone resorting to the petulance of "brilliant repartee" would have sourced th
LanternWaste
Aug 2014
#96
I would gladly be activated from Reserve status to help exterminate this vermin.
IronGate
Aug 2014
#63
And in the process, fund the opposition to more effectively carry our further ransom activities.
LanternWaste
Aug 2014
#97
A sad truth. Poor Foley. Sure seemed like a great dude. He knew what he was getting into. Man,
zonkers
Aug 2014
#83
Your post covers it why it's not wise to pay terrorists for ransom, flamingdem.. So sad for
Cha
Aug 2014
#81
One hundred million dollars for more weapons to kidnap more people so they can do it again?
McCamy Taylor
Aug 2014
#15
This has NOTHING to do with the "macho" characteristic you are inferring. These animals have been
still_one
Aug 2014
#29
no you can't. This is going after a criminal element who are killing innocent civilians, mostly
still_one
Aug 2014
#31
It isn't war. It's a response to terrorists who can't wait to attack us in the US
lunatica
Aug 2014
#80
Pay ransom, get more hostages taken, it becomes an industry all unto itself.
TwilightGardener
Aug 2014
#12
Pay ransom, allows Isil to buy more weapons, and kill more people. Hmmmm. Not rocket science
still_one
Aug 2014
#32