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Uncle Joe

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39. Or this
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 07:36 PM
Aug 2014


asked for proof that Hamas did it, the evidence provided by you and the other poster states that

the al-Qassam Brigades; which is an independent branch of Hamas claimed responsibility.

I cited evidence that Hamas and the al-Qassam Brigades are similar in structure as Sinn Féin's relationship to the military arm of the Irish Republican Army, they operate independently.

There is no evidence that the political wing of Hamas claimed responsibility, despite the headlines of your and the other poster's links.

I cited evidence that a major, formerly moderate Palestinian clan was suspected by Israeli Police as being behind the kidnappings and murders of the three Israeli teenagers.

I cited evidence that the head of this clan, a democratically elected Mayor which at one time advocated for a two state solution was deported by Israel and assassinated four years later, no one knows who killed him.

I cited evidence that four years after he was assassinated, the clan or at least major elements of it became radicalized, logic would dictate those elements back the al-Qassam Brigades' hard-line approach and the deportation/assassination of that clan's leader had a major negative effect.

I cited evidence that this clan has done its best to spoil or ruin previous attempts of the estranged parties reaching a cease fire and/or peace agreement and every time Israel gets sucked in.

I cited evidence that within the Israeli government there was major disagreement between the Israeli Defense Force Chief of Staff promoting a moderate response and a Minister of Economics in taking a hard-line, heavy fist-ed approach, logic would dictate the same dynamic occurs between the Hamas political wing wanting a unity government, allowing elections and the para-military wing of the al-Qassam Brigades.

Logic and history dictates that every time Israel retaliates in a punitive in mass way, the hard-line al-Qassam Brigades are strengthened in the long run even when many of them die, because many innocents are killed as well. Meanwhile more moderate factions in the Hamas political wing are weakened as Israel becomes more hated by the civilian populace.

If you don't wish to connect the dots or answer my questions, that's your prerogative but Hamas hasn't claimed responsibility, one senior member of the al-Qassam Brigades has.

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Already posted in I/P leftynyc Aug 2014 #1
Not to worry MrNJ Aug 2014 #2
Yes they will. They 840high Aug 2014 #3
If Hamas admits to the kidnapping & murder, then Hamas should be held accountable Orrex Aug 2014 #13
I think the thread is meant more for clarification MrBig Aug 2014 #24
Since i'm not sure whats allowed and what isn't... Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #4
Wow philosslayer Aug 2014 #6
Sorry to upset you. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #8
So you're either with us or against us huh? philosslayer Aug 2014 #9
I'd argue with you... Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #10
Small dogs are the ones who bark the most. NealK Aug 2014 #12
LOL Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #15
And bite more often FrodosPet Aug 2014 #33
So... NealK Aug 2014 #14
Following my posting style in an attempt to keep from getting a lock is a bad idea. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #16
lol...I didnt take exception to your post.... Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #18
in that case, I misunderstood your post of a couple of days ago, and I'm sorry about that. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #19
Pul-eeze.....Noooooo Problem . Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #20
I loved your post leftynyc Aug 2014 #27
My favorite..He nailed it with this one. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #34
Here's the Israeli/Palestinian "genocide." Archae Aug 2014 #5
Hamas are just wonderful people. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #7
Where were you when IDF soliders killed two unarmed Palestinian teens in cold blood VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #36
Sounds like Hamas is recruiting like minded Jihads again seveneyes Aug 2014 #11
Hamas sabbat hunter Aug 2014 #30
The price for occupation is heavy. And nobody wins. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #17
Disgusting comment. tabasco Aug 2014 #21
Whats shocking is... Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #22
I'm shocked about the murders tabasco Aug 2014 #37
No, not at all. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #44
But, but, but Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #23
Don't worry MrBig Aug 2014 #25
I'm expecting to be told leftynyc Aug 2014 #28
Thats very common. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #31
It's apparently not the "REAL" Hamas. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #32
That's quite the pretzel leftynyc Aug 2014 #35
And still doing it. Behind the Aegis Aug 2014 #42
Don't forget this part. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #38
Or this Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #39
Or this. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #40
or are they attempting to retaliate for the loss MFM008 Aug 2014 #26
These kidnappings took place in June leftynyc Aug 2014 #29
Technicality. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #41
One Hamas official living in Turkey made that claim. cpwm17 Aug 2014 #43
Hamas kills Jews..and they kill their own. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #45
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