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70. the article i posted is not by Stanton Glatz, are you trying to pull a fast one on the readers here?

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Tue Aug 26, 2014, 12:16 PM

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'Ban E-cigarette use indoors,' says WHO [View all] muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 OP

But not in peoples' JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #1

Congrats on going nicotine free. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #3

You could! JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #6

I Vape RobinA Aug 2014 #49

why is the only issue about you? CreekDog Aug 2014 #54

I Have No Idea RobinA Aug 2014 #88

My wife uses Quackers Aug 2014 #98

Every product that I've seen and bought (and I have used e-cigs since April) notadmblnd Aug 2014 #4

I agree JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #7

No cigarettes are not sold in vending machines any longer notadmblnd Aug 2014 #8

They are in Europe. All over Italy. cbayer Aug 2014 #9

This is true JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #10

I haven't noticed if they are selling e-cigs from them, but cbayer Aug 2014 #12

I didn't see them there the last time we went JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #13

I quit just a few weeks before coming to Italy. cbayer Aug 2014 #15

They have age verification devices on EU machines now. JVS Aug 2014 #41

Not on the ones I have seen. cbayer Aug 2014 #44

No new machines can be installed, but in many states obxhead Aug 2014 #16

Las Vegas has them. That's about it. nt B2G Aug 2014 #19

They are in Tenn and Mo Go Vols Aug 2014 #86

Yes, they're okay up here too. raven mad Aug 2014 #101

I would hope WHO has some numbers to put out there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #2

Actually, as I read it, WHO is asking for numbers. cbayer Aug 2014 #11

Pardon me, I'll be vaping periodically in my cubicle, and bothering absolutely nobody. tridim Aug 2014 #5

It would bother me. bbrady42 Aug 2014 #45

By This Token RobinA Aug 2014 #52

And their cars (OMG) THEIR effin' CARS!!! ;) Amonester Aug 2014 #55

actually many of us are trying to get stronger regulations on household chemicals CreekDog Aug 2014 #64

What I Don't Understand RobinA Aug 2014 #89

Also perfume/cologne, flatulence and fecal bacteria in the bathroom... tridim Aug 2014 #66

Give (those it bothers) this link (or others): Amonester Aug 2014 #53

It's just water vapor, and it smells like mint. tridim Aug 2014 #60

Who gives a shit what WHO thinks or wants... pipoman Aug 2014 #14

Well, the anti-smokers are at it again PennyK Aug 2014 #17

Maybe WHO should focus on actual HEALTH issues B2G Aug 2014 #18

There's an interesting article in the Times today that relates to this frazzled Aug 2014 #21

The way I look at it, if something is required for life, like sodium... tridim Aug 2014 #22

"extreme" reactions to cholesterol (continually lowering the bar, with no apparent reason)" dixiegrrrrl Aug 2014 #38

Your liver produces all of the cholesterol you'll ever need. If you got absolutely none in your diet LeftyMom Aug 2014 #82

Um ... nobody's disputing that you don't need "more" cholesterol frazzled Aug 2014 #91

The "healthy" levels are levels which still reflect poor cardiac outcomes. LeftyMom Aug 2014 #94

That's not correct, I believe frazzled Aug 2014 #97

there are chemicals emitted from e-cigarettes, that is a health issue for bystanders CreekDog Aug 2014 #46

Care to provide some proof of that? B2G Aug 2014 #47

yes, from UCSF CreekDog Aug 2014 #51

If Formaldehyde RobinA Aug 2014 #56

anti science CreekDog Aug 2014 #57

Run and hide B2G Aug 2014 #67

your position is that any compound found in the environment is ok in your home in any quantity? CreekDog Aug 2014 #69

New Clothes RobinA Aug 2014 #90

no, the anti science part was your contention that if we don't ban clothing CreekDog Aug 2014 #92

Ah Creekdog... B2G Aug 2014 #93

Again RobinA Aug 2014 #100

Stanton Glantz is notorious in the vaping world. Demit Aug 2014 #68

the article i posted is not by Stanton Glatz, are you trying to pull a fast one on the readers here? CreekDog Aug 2014 #70

You link to a comment 'submitted by sglantz'. That is Stanton Glantz. Demit Aug 2014 #75

Wait...is that...science? B2G Aug 2014 #81

LOL I know, right? Demit Aug 2014 #84

you're saying the journal article referred to is not science? CreekDog Aug 2014 #87

thank you for this. KittyWampus Aug 2014 #99

FUCK THEM! L0oniX Aug 2014 #20

They aren't recommending that they be banned, just cbayer Aug 2014 #23

I'm all for whatever makes it easier for people to guit ...even allowing them to smoke anywhere. L0oniX Aug 2014 #24

I'm not sure how allowing people to use e-cigs anywhere cbayer Aug 2014 #25

Agree about the kids. Unfortunately the same idea is being used to block legalization of pot. L0oniX Aug 2014 #29

I'm a proponent of legalization, but I still think there has to be some rules for the cbayer Aug 2014 #32

Vaping nicotine accomplishes not putting tar & 400 chemicals into your lungs. Demit Aug 2014 #35

There is no doubt that e-cigs are a much healthier alternative. I am cbayer Aug 2014 #37

So is caffeine an addictive substance. Somehow it doesn't carry the same stigma. Demit Aug 2014 #39

Caffeine is an addictive substance but it does not generally kill you. cbayer Aug 2014 #42

It's the smoking that can kill you. Not the nicotine. Demit Aug 2014 #59

It's the addiction that most people gratify by smoking. cbayer Aug 2014 #61

My purpose is not to defend nicotine but to dispel wrong ideas about it. Demit Aug 2014 #72

Sorry, there are no wrong ideas about nicotine. cbayer Aug 2014 #76

Nicotine cannot kill you. That's the wrong idea i want to dispel. Demit Aug 2014 #77

What does nicotine do for you that is beneficial? cbayer Aug 2014 #78

You're kidding, right? Start here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1859921 Demit Aug 2014 #83

Creative way to rationalize addictions that make decisions for us... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #79

Yes, I am compelled to turn on the tv wed nights at 8pm. Demit Aug 2014 #80

because i don't breathe acetone when you drink your morning coffee CreekDog Aug 2014 #65

How are you going to ban something B2G Aug 2014 #26

I can tell when it's in my vicinity. cbayer Aug 2014 #28

I am a smoker B2G Aug 2014 #31

I told you how I can tell. As a recent ex-smoker (20 - 30/day for 45 years), cbayer Aug 2014 #33

I am asking HOW you can sense nicotine in the air B2G Aug 2014 #34

It sets off nicotine cravings. cbayer Aug 2014 #36

what's wrong with using them outside? CreekDog Aug 2014 #48

FUCK SCIENCE CreekDog Aug 2014 #58

Roger Daltrey can fuck off, e-cigs are a great way of ending cigarette addiction. Throd Aug 2014 #27

What in the world does Roger Daltrey have to do with this? cbayer Aug 2014 #30

A bad pun - "The Who" (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #40

Lol. I even googled it and couldn't figure it out. cbayer Aug 2014 #43

so you're saying if they are great it doesn't matter what chemicals they emit? CreekDog Aug 2014 #50

I believe the "dangers" of e-cigs are overblown Throd Aug 2014 #62

you believe the dangers are overblown? is this your religion? CreekDog Aug 2014 #63

I think a lot of the studies are crap by people with an agenda. Throd Aug 2014 #71

yeah why listen to science when you can just assure yourself that it's all crap CreekDog Aug 2014 #74

Interesting link also there on that site (BBC) Amonester Aug 2014 #73

Does WHO say to ban tobacco cigarettes, which are definitely toxic? nt valerief Aug 2014 #85

Sez who? LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #95

Cherry pick information much? the_sly_pig Aug 2014 #96

The truth is that WHO really doesn't know if inhaling second-hand vapor is harmful in any way. It's OregonBlue Aug 2014 #102

So they wqant to take sweet flavours away just for spite Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #103

The sweet flavours seem aimed at people who haven't smoked cigarettes muriel_volestrangler Aug 2014 #105

Except for the actuaql evidence Prophet 451 Aug 2014 #106

I understand the need to study the issue before claiming that they help people quit, but Hosnon Aug 2014 #104