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70. He doesn't have the national support and campaign organization to win. The Democratic candidate will

Wed Aug 27, 2014, 02:03 AM

Aug 2014

have a decent chance, no matter who that candidate is. All Sanders would do as a third party candidate is throw the election to the Rethugs.

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Sanders weighs Clinton challenge [View all] DonViejo Aug 2014 OP

Run! Bernie, Run! n/t earthside Aug 2014 #1

+ 1,000 run Bernie RUN Vincardog Aug 2014 #27

++++++ 840high Aug 2014 #51

+ another Scuba Aug 2014 #58

Go for it Bernie, I will support you 110% Autumn Aug 2014 #2

If Sanders goes against Hillary in the primary I'll vote for him. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #3

+1 daleanime Aug 2014 #22

I usually vote for what's left of what's left. yurbud Aug 2014 #61

we don't get much of a choice either by the time the primaries come to CA frylock Aug 2014 #65

yep. That's why I said "what's left." I mailed in my primary ballot for Edwards... yurbud Aug 2014 #114

i did the same exact thing. mailed my ballot the day before edwards dropped out.. frylock Aug 2014 #137

I would, too. Cal33 Aug 2014 #127

Far better person, and far better Democrat (despite not technically being one)... True Blue Door Aug 2014 #4

I wish we could elect SamKnause Aug 2014 #5

My feeling. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #9

I agree. n/t. ms liberty Aug 2014 #41

Yes. Implicit in your statement are troubling questions: RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #11

The simple answers; SamKnause Aug 2014 #13

Exactly! SoapBox Aug 2014 #19

Well said!! wendylaroux Aug 2014 #25

They have to sell their soul and our office for the almighty campaign dollar. This is how the Dustlawyer Aug 2014 #56

It's due to voters racism and fear. I pin more blame on the voters than harun Aug 2014 #88

If only. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2014 #79

Dear Bernie Sanders Plucketeer Aug 2014 #6

That headline sucks Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #7

Hillary is, for better or worse, the presumptive Dem nominee in 2016, as polls show her beating VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #91

They said the same thing in 2008 Bjorn Against Aug 2014 #95

That is most certainly true! But such is HRC's 'pull' currently that Warren has VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #96

Actually, Warren promised her constituents that she wouldn't pull a Palin Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #151

to your point... 2banon Aug 2014 #99

Unless Bernie officially becomes a democrat cosmicone Aug 2014 #8

wrong. my congressman runs as an independent/democrat hopemountain Aug 2014 #14

It's a different thing to run nationally. If he runs 3rd party he will toss the election pnwmom Aug 2014 #17

how is this so, pnwmom? please explain hopemountain Aug 2014 #20

Ralph Nader, 2000. Took more than 97,000 votes in Florida, the state that decided the election. pnwmom Aug 2014 #24

i was sincerely asking, pnwmom and NOT hopemountain Aug 2014 #28

If Bernie runs as a Democrat, I will have no problem with that. But if he loses the primary pnwmom Aug 2014 #30

This. So fuggin' this. Adrahil Aug 2014 #77

Bernie can't 'leave' the party, since he's not a member of it currently. Don't know enough VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #93

Only declared Democrats can run in the primary. If he left it afterwards, he'd be a turncoat, pnwmom Aug 2014 #103

Maybe I'm not being clear enough: can Sanders even run against HRC in VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #115

He would have to declare himself a Democrat in order to run in the Democratic primaries. pnwmom Aug 2014 #116

Yeah, I take your point. And my understanding seems to match yours, i.e., that he VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #119

Here's MY sincere answer: ReRe Aug 2014 #31

The affect of holding HRC's feet to the fire is a very GOOD one, BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #106

Same here. ReRe Aug 2014 #108

I thought that everyone knew by now, Gore won Florida and the election. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #35

Speaking of "Nice try." RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #38

SCOTUS would never have heard the case if Nader hadn't drawn 97000 votes in Florida. pnwmom Aug 2014 #44

So it was SCOTUS that did it? Now I am confused. Someone needs to make up their mind. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2014 #57

Nope. Nader grabbed the Rethug ball and kicked it to SCOTUS. pnwmom Aug 2014 #62

Nader appealed to SCOTUS? I thought it was Bush and Cheney that appealed to the Supremes. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #63

They would have had nothing to appeal if Nader hadn't gotten 97,000 votes in Florida. pnwmom Aug 2014 #64

So how do you feel about Ohio in 2004? Nader steal that one too? n/t A Simple Game Aug 2014 #75

Bush wouldn't have been running as an incumbent -- Gore would have. n/t pnwmom Aug 2014 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Aug 2014 #134

It's a horrible thing when we have more than two candidates to choose from and vote for... LanternWaste Aug 2014 #109

It is when it splits the progressive vote and tosses the election far to the right of both. pnwmom Aug 2014 #112

Why don't you stop acting like a schmuck. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #102

And why don't you refute what I said? n/t A Simple Game Aug 2014 #122

Nader doesn't run, Gore is president. HERVEPA Aug 2014 #126

Supreme court didn't stop the recount, Gore is President. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #135

First off, let me say I am not a fan of Nader. jaded_old_cynic Aug 2014 #143

I know -- it's just sooooo confusing when someone says an event has more than one cause. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #123

Yes, he had the right to run. But if he had cared more for his progressive causes pnwmom Aug 2014 #144

Austrialia has 15 parties running, and no shit and shittier forever on ballots TheNutcracker Aug 2014 #66

yes...by 500 and some votes. ms liberty Aug 2014 #46

You seem to be missing the problem, Gore lost because they stopped the recounts. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #82

I'm not "missing" the problem... ms liberty Aug 2014 #105

You can deal in "If's" all day if you want, but in the end it was the Supreme Court that cost Gore A Simple Game Aug 2014 #128

You mistake me, again... ms liberty Aug 2014 #131

Nader ran and yet Gore still won, you can't deny that fact. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #136

Does blaming the Supreme Court let Katherine Harris off the hook? Jim Lane Aug 2014 #124

Ah, yes you're right Ms. Harris has lots to be ashamed of as do many others. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #129

I understand not wanting to write a novel, especially with Nader now less relevant than Sarah Palin. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #139

You are probably right, if Nader hadn't run Gore would have most likely won. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #140

Nader should have run -- in the primaries. Jim Lane Aug 2014 #145

Nader had a right to run, period. No law says you have to join a party. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #150

What the hell IS it with the Naderites and this �right to run� straw man???? Jim Lane Aug 2014 #160

Oh come on.... Adrahil Aug 2014 #78

Yes Oh come on... Let's keep blaming Nader instead of who really stole the election. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #85

+1 beerandjesus Aug 2014 #87

<sigh> It isn't about just one thing, but the Nader apologists just can't accept that he had some Adrahil Aug 2014 #90

We do not have a two party system, show me where it say we do. A Simple Game Aug 2014 #98

Unless Warren is the candidate, the election will be decided more by the stay at homes, truedelphi Aug 2014 #50

If he runs 3rd party, ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #68

He doesn't have the national support and campaign organization to win. The Democratic candidate will pnwmom Aug 2014 #70

Not yet. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #71

Not in time for the election. How would he get himself on the ballots of 50 states? pnwmom Aug 2014 #72

Stranger things have happened. nt ZombieHorde Aug 2014 #73

Exactly. People seem to forget that Ralph Nader gave us Dubya. NT Adrahil Aug 2014 #76

Rep. Defazio is a member of the Democratic Party. Sen. Sanders is NOT. BlueCaliDem Aug 2014 #104

Bullcrap. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2014 #53

He caucuses with Senate Dems. Isn't that enough to allow support for him? VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #92

He still identifies himself as an independent. cosmicone Aug 2014 #141

Yeah, I take your point. I'm a firm believer in 'party discipline' (else VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #142

But since officially nobody is in the race yet there's no problem caraher Aug 2014 #157

DU Rec! RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #10

How soon before January does someone have to become a registered Democrat.... George II Aug 2014 #12

I think there are a lot of usually republican voters who are Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #29

Remember, many of them voted for Romney in 2012.... George II Aug 2014 #39

How will AIPAC paint Bernie? The Jewish Defense League? Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #42

I don't know, but you have to expect any campaign against Sanders... George II Aug 2014 #49

Well, we've had a Catholic President, seems like it would be a good time for our first Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #152

Yes, for many....but not "middle America" George II Aug 2014 #158

That'd be lovely, but I don't see any real evidence for that. Adrahil Aug 2014 #80

if they vote.. I don't know. takes a dreamer to make a dream come true, right? Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #110

he will have my vote nt hopemountain Aug 2014 #15

Go, Bernie, Go! KamaAina Aug 2014 #16

Run Robbins Aug 2014 #18

I would vote for Bernie SoapBox Aug 2014 #21

Demographics in national elections keep getting worse for Repubs. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #153

Woo Hoo !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2014 #23

Oh Boy! 99th_Monkey Aug 2014 #26

K&R ReRe Aug 2014 #32

Just one problem with Bernie Z_California Aug 2014 #33

We weren't supposed to be ready for a Catholic President either. Or an African-American one. RufusTFirefly Aug 2014 #45

they've been calling Obama a socialist for 6 years Enrique Aug 2014 #107

Could be a good thing flamingdem Aug 2014 #34

From his positions of defense of the US, I suspect he will have a big change on his position if he Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #36

Defense from what? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #154

Didn't know anyone was attacking us. Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #156

Of course I will support Berne Sanders OutNow Aug 2014 #37

Bernie - Please Spare Many The Pain Of A HRC Candidacy cantbeserious Aug 2014 #40

Many?? How about America's (remaining) middle class and poor. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2014 #54

Just Allowing Room For All The HRC Supporters To Breath - Some Become Vituperative cantbeserious Aug 2014 #59

Run as a Dem, please! riqster Aug 2014 #43

A self-labeled socialist with no national structure who will be 75 in 2016. pnwmom Aug 2014 #47

He MIGHT succeed in getting poor people to rethink why socialism is "evil" karynnj Aug 2014 #48

Sweden, Norway, Denmark etc. aren't Socialist... brooklynite Aug 2014 #147

Sanders' socialism is the same democratic socialism that is in Scandinavia karynnj Aug 2014 #149

Sounds to me as if PDittie Aug 2014 #52

Bernie said early on MsLeopard Aug 2014 #55

Sen Sanders makes a valid point. Stellar Aug 2014 #84

That alone isn't going to make much difference. Nihil Aug 2014 #86

Sadly, I agree..... nt MsLeopard Aug 2014 #97

When Bernie Sanders endorses Clinton after the Primaries, how will you react? brooklynite Aug 2014 #148

With the same cynical attitude that I have towards the cheerleaders before the event. Nihil Aug 2014 #159

Not a fan of Hillary, but she'll clean his clock unfortunately. BenzoDia Aug 2014 #60

Keep dreamin - Hillary is bought and paid for by Wall Street. End of story. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2014 #83

I wish him the best and I hope he goes full bore. Phlem Aug 2014 #67

just do it Bernie! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2014 #69

Oh I hope so JonLP24 Aug 2014 #74

I love Bernie Sanders, but... Stellar Aug 2014 #81

If Sanders really wanted to fire up the base, he'd pre-announce Kshama Sawant of Socialist VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #94

If he runs as a Democrat I'd consider supporting him davidpdx Aug 2014 #89

A little sugar for the left.... candelista Aug 2014 #100

Yes, Bernie! woo me with science Aug 2014 #101

if he loses in the primaries, he should run as an independent. yurbud Aug 2014 #113

Endorsing a third-party candidate is a violation of the TOS. brooklynite Aug 2014 #118

it's not even primary season yet. And if the Democratic candidate loses, it will have a lot more to yurbud Aug 2014 #120

Perhaps so...still a violation of TOS brooklynite Aug 2014 #121

Don't let them bother you. herding cats Aug 2014 #132

As a Clinton supporter, I'll say "good for him". brooklynite Aug 2014 #117

Sanders on the third-party question Jim Lane Aug 2014 #125

Count me in! nt Zorra Aug 2014 #130

Run Bernie!!! America needs you. Zen Democrat Aug 2014 #133

Just bought tickets to the September dinner. bunnies Aug 2014 #138

i think he would be a great addition to the debate loyalsister Aug 2014 #146

Yes!!! Owl Aug 2014 #155

went to a Ready for Warren party last night wordpix Aug 2014 #161

Got my vote damnedifIknow Aug 2014 #162