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7. withdrawal is not recognition
Fri Aug 29, 2014, 10:03 AM
Aug 2014

and demands can change if the counter-demands are flexible, too.

Right now it looks as if the DPR is gaining ground, so maybe accepting the Russian offer to send peace-keepers is not such a bad offer for Ukraine right now. If they are willing to stop the destruction and the killing.

It looks to me, though, as if it were the US and not the Ukrainian government which is setting the tone. Demanding this, pointing out that, don't they have enough problems with the follow-up of previous peace-bombings, illegal invasions and occupations?

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Well, it's a start. Now Putin only has to get the rebels to join peace negotiations. DetlefK Aug 2014 #1
not a start, happened several times previously reorg Aug 2014 #2
They negotiate like Republicans. DetlefK Aug 2014 #3
Don't let reality ruin the OPs love affair with Putin... Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #11
Basically Ukrainse has to recognize the "Donetsk People's Republic" before negotiations can begin? Adrahil Aug 2014 #4
no, they just need to stop the shooting reorg Aug 2014 #5
A withdrawal from the "DPR" (actually Ukraine) would be a defacto recognition of "DPR" territory. Adrahil Aug 2014 #6
withdrawal is not recognition reorg Aug 2014 #7
Or the putschista forces could slowly be starved into submission. Think Stalingrad or VanGoghRocks Aug 2014 #8
Putin is calling the place Novorossiya now. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2014 #9
Negotiating Table.... Xolodno Aug 2014 #12
Putin is not a Marxist or a Leninist. JackRiddler Aug 2014 #14
Ukrainian refugees to receive Russian pensions - minister reorg Aug 2014 #10
10,000 Ukrainian Army forces encircled reorg Aug 2014 #13
Still posting vineyardsaker, I see. joshcryer Aug 2014 #15
Catherina n/t reorg Aug 2014 #16
Read the about link. joshcryer Aug 2014 #17
I'm just watching an interview reorg Aug 2014 #18
Nothing would surprise me. Ultra-nationalism is on the rise. joshcryer Aug 2014 #19
their agreement has little to do with nationalism reorg Aug 2014 #21
so, did you watch the short video? reorg Aug 2014 #20
Yes, it is absolutely absurd. joshcryer Aug 2014 #22
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