Ukraine Cites 15,000 Russian Troops and Rebels Amid Putin's 'Take Kiev' Remark

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76. There is another point of view

Let's consider the following chain of events:

1. The neocon push for a regime change in Ukraine under the auspices of the CIA is successful with cookies and right wing militia etc.
2. Russia, not wanting to lose the bases in crimea, annexes it as a logical reaction - whether you like it or not.
3. Russia, in order to destabilize the CIA installed government in Ukraine creates unrest.
4. There is a propaganda war trying to discredit Russia at every step.

Under these circumstances and with Russians rallying around Putin taking his popularity to an all time high, one NGO comes forward and repeats the 15,000 Russians in Ukraine claim which it cannot possibly know. No NGO is ever going to know the exact troop count. The 15,000 is exactly the same number that was thrown out by Poroshenko. (Again, a number that is believable and alarming as I stated before. 3,000 won't alarm anyone and 100,000 would be unbelievable)

I am honest in that I find the claims from Ukraine to be not credible. You are insisting that they are credible and word of the almighty himself. I am comfortable in stating that I don't know the truth of what is going on. You seem to know everything that is going on there very accurately.

If the CIA had not been impatient and had waited for the one year to the elections as a part of the three way Yanukovytch-EU-Russia deal, everything would have been on the up and up -- but no -- CIA wanted its regime change immediately and by force.