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60. You misread this completely. The person the article is CRITICIZING doesn't represent

Sat Sep 6, 2014, 09:48 PM

Sep 2014

the teaching of the church. That is the person, Father Tad, who says that there is only a particular way to end an ectopic pregnancy, which is through a surgical removal of the tube.

The actual article was an official writing by the Archdiocese, and it says that Father Tad's opinion is too narrow and doesn't represent official teaching. The Archdiocese, in line with official teaching, says that an ectopic pregnancy can be ended either through surgical (removing a tube) or pharmaceutical means.

Again, from the article I just linked to:

While some commentators like this neuroscientist- priest (Father Tad) are free to note their reservation on this or any other matter, church teaching supports a broader perspective. Some may not agree with the moral calculus used. However, it has served our magisterium and others within the church well.

Catholic mothers, physicians and nurses are morally free to use the two surgical and pharmaceutical approaches when it appears the pregnancy will not resolve itself naturally. In doing so they witness to the Gospel of life in using their God-given talents to respect life even when it cannot be preserved.

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Wendy Davis book reveals abortion [View all] TexasTowelie Sep 2014 OP

I had heard similar information, backs up why she stool for very long to leave Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #1

Brave woman. nt Mnemosyne Sep 2014 #2

My life changed forever during that time. littlemissmartypants Sep 2014 #3

I stand with Wendy. Kath1 Sep 2014 #4

She is a courageous truth-teller and principled leader. k&r, nt appal_jack Sep 2014 #5

And the Catholics & Repukes want to outlaw these. El Supremo Sep 2014 #6

Catholic theology allows the termination of a pregnancy when the baby will die anyway, pnwmom Sep 2014 #13

Thank you!!!!!!!! yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #15

Thank You! Kath1 Sep 2014 #16

Yet they give money and support to the institution that is working tirelessly BrotherIvan Sep 2014 #23

In their opinion, the good outweighs the bad. No institution is without flaws. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #25

Poppycock. alarimer Sep 2014 #51

More anti-Catholic bigotry. That's nothing new. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #53

That is simply untrue. Kindly post the Vatican-approved authority that allows msanthrope Sep 2014 #31

It isn't an exception for the life of the mother. It is an exception for when pnwmom Sep 2014 #39

Kindly cite that "exception" in Church doctrine....and, let's reflect on what you msanthrope Sep 2014 #43

I'm not defending the Church's position. I just mentioned the same exception pnwmom Sep 2014 #44

I'm not asking you to defend it....I'm asking you to cite your claim msanthrope Sep 2014 #45

You already stated it yourself -- the double effects exception. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #46

Um...no. There is no "double effects" execption to abortion. You seem to be conflating msanthrope Sep 2014 #47

It is a type of pregnancy termination. If a tube is removed with an embryo inside, that pregnancy pnwmom Sep 2014 #49

Exactly.....this is not actual Catholic doctrine..... msanthrope Sep 2014 #57

Oh goodness, such a nice series of posts Tumbulu Sep 2014 #58

Indeed...accurately stating what the Catholic Church's doctrine is is hatred? msanthrope Sep 2014 #59

You didn't state it accurately. You turned the article upside down. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #61

By quoting the article itself? Hardly. nt msanthrope Sep 2014 #62

By misidentifying the person you quoted out of context. n/t pnwmom Sep 2014 #65

You misread this completely. The person the article is CRITICIZING doesn't represent pnwmom Sep 2014 #60

Again....show me the Vatican-approved doctrine that supports this....because this isn't msanthrope Sep 2014 #63

This is official Catholic doctrine, even though it happens to be pnwmom Sep 2014 #64

As a Jesuit-taught novitiate at one point in my life, madam, I assure msanthrope Sep 2014 #66

You, as a supposedly Jesuit-taught novitiate, are in the perfect position to do your own research, pnwmom Sep 2014 #67

Wikipedia is where you go to to learn about your religion? Try this.... msanthrope Sep 2014 #69

They are the foundation but they don't address the specific details of every moral decision. pnwmom Sep 2014 #70

Catholic theology only allows for "double effect" if the tube or uterus needs to be removed, LeftyMom Sep 2014 #37

I said the same thing you are saying. If the embryo/fetus will die anyway, because the pnwmom Sep 2014 #40

My ex had a sort of rare condition only found in her 20th week of pregnancy. greiner3 Sep 2014 #42

Ah, Catholics. valerief Sep 2014 #48

A brave woman made a heartbreaking decision. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #7

Indeed! Kath1 Sep 2014 #18

I loved watching her, Kath. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #20

Love her! Kath1 Sep 2014 #21

She is a brave woman. (One who happened to be a Republican at the time.) Faryn Balyncd Sep 2014 #8

She made a personal decision as an American woman that no one else should make or judge. mountain grammy Sep 2014 #9

And the terminations were her's to make...and not a decision forced upon her by SoapBox Sep 2014 #10

And those were safe and legal LittleGirl Sep 2014 #11

"safe and legal" Kath1 Sep 2014 #19

That's my take on it. eom LittleGirl Sep 2014 #29

The ectopic one shouldn't even be called an abortion, since the uterus wasn't emptied of any embryo pnwmom Sep 2014 #12

The anti-abortion fringe thinks that it is. LeftyMom Sep 2014 #38

Never an easy choice... yallerdawg Sep 2014 #14

Absolutely and without question!!!! AuntPatsy Sep 2014 #17

K & R SunSeeker Sep 2014 #22

I stand with Wendy davidpdx Sep 2014 #24

Best wishes to Wendy Davis. She makes Texas look so much better. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2014 #26

Yes but... charlives Sep 2014 #27

This was a very personal and tough decision Gothmog Sep 2014 #28

I defy Abbott to make an issue of this... CTyankee Sep 2014 #30

Abbott is too cowardly to debate Wendy.... riversedge Sep 2014 #33

there will be a slimy ad, tho... CTyankee Sep 2014 #35

I HOPE and PRAY this woman wins. We need someone to stand onecent Sep 2014 #32

Abbott has the money... riversedge Sep 2014 #34

I will be proud to call you my governor, Wendy. Rozlee Sep 2014 #36

I stand with Wendy. DamnYankeeInHouston Sep 2014 #41

Response from Abbott TexasTowelie Sep 2014 #50

Unfortunately in Texas, this is political suicide. alarimer Sep 2014 #52

That is far from clear. Faryn Balyncd Sep 2014 #54

I think Abbott would face a real backlash from Texas women if he criticized Wendy's CTyankee Sep 2014 #55

I think ypu are correct. Faryn Balyncd Sep 2014 #56

Was she supposed to have died from an ectopic pregnancy? LisaL Sep 2014 #68