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Orrex

(67,125 posts)
47. Right, and your situation defines everyone else's
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 05:44 PM
Apr 2012

In my entire youth and 12 years of schooling I heard not a single word about the hideous burden of student loans. Instead, I heard the constant drumbeat of "you absolutely have to get a four year degree if you want to have any sort of life at all." That may not be the truth of reality, but it's exactly the message foisted on countless high school sophomores and juniors. Blame the slogan chanters who feed this line of bullshit to the students and who thereby steer them into decades of debt.

So you think an 18-year-old who has just been through 12 years of schooling and has done plenty of research papers shouldn't have to be bothered with finding the details of borrowing that much money?

How many banks will give car loans to 18-year-olds with no jobs? How many mortgages? How many places will let that 18-year-old rent a car? If you think that the average 18-year-old is fully equipped to make life-altering economic decisions, then I'll need you to provide the name of the 18-year-old who does your taxes and manages your portfolio for you.

Wall Street experts with advanced degrees in accounting have fucked up in their investments and investments made on behalf of others, so if you're content to lay this trillion-dollar inescapable loan burden at the feet of the 18-year-old who--in your assessment--was too lazy to anticipate worldwide economic phenomena 20 years in advance, then more power to you.

Again, you're being naive.


Here: try something else: go back to the time when I was in college and try Googling Google, and tell me how many hits you get.



As is typical of the victim-blamers, you extrapolate from your own atypical conditions and deride anyone who didn't likewise enjoy the same set of circumstances that allowed you to prosper. Apparently you've got yours, jack, and to hell with the rest.

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another result NJCher Apr 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author xzwq Apr 2012 #13
A big part of this is "predatory institutions" ... SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2012 #36
This whole economic mess is the fault of students and their... Gibby Apr 2012 #2
Nothing wrong with education--that's not the point of the article Orrex Apr 2012 #4
Well said... BB_Troll Apr 2012 #7
Which ones are those? lunatica Apr 2012 #9
I don't think that was the intent of the post Orrex Apr 2012 #24
Some bachelors degrees are worth more than others on the day after graduation. BB_Troll Apr 2012 #28
"Degrees in most humanities do not pay for themselves." Nihil Apr 2012 #58
"This is necessary in order to balance out... " BB_Troll Apr 2012 #59
Not inescapable SATIRical Apr 2012 #34
Commendable, but not really relevant Orrex Apr 2012 #39
It's not rare SATIRical Apr 2012 #41
Yes, deceived. In some cases, at least. SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2012 #44
Spoken like someone who hasn't had to deal with student loans in any real way Orrex Apr 2012 #45
So an 18-year-old doesn't understand how much $50,000 is? SATIRical Apr 2012 #46
Right, and your situation defines everyone else's Orrex Apr 2012 #47
OK, since you want to make it all about you SATIRical Apr 2012 #49
I'm not making it "all about me" Orrex Apr 2012 #51
If reading the loan document and terms is atypical SATIRical Apr 2012 #52
You can stuff your assumptions up your self-righteousness Orrex Apr 2012 #53
"adults have to take responsibility for their decisions" limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #56
Why do are student loans permitted to accrue interest? Orrex Apr 2012 #3
That's a good question. sybylla Apr 2012 #32
People often ask me why I hesitate davidthegnome Apr 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author xzwq Apr 2012 #14
I'm glad I didn't hesitate to go. JoePhilly Apr 2012 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author xzwq Apr 2012 #18
Pay as you go. laundry_queen Apr 2012 #30
That is what I'm doing. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #37
Yep, that's smart (nt) SATIRical Apr 2012 #42
Du rec. Nt xchrom Apr 2012 #6
I don't understand this part Owlet Apr 2012 #8
If the debt to the student is discharged dipsydoodle Apr 2012 #10
Just because the debt is non-dischargeable, it doesn't mean you can pay. Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #23
Short answer - taxpayer is guaranteeing the debts Yo_Mama Apr 2012 #25
I have had clients on Social Security Disability, subject to Student loans collections happyslug Apr 2012 #31
I am starting to have doubts that you went to "collage". nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #33
Collage?College?It is a sign of a lack of education if you can only spell a word one way, S. Johnson happyslug Apr 2012 #40
Clever! NJCher Apr 2012 #55
I have to watch Does not and Trail/Trial happyslug Apr 2012 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author xzwq Apr 2012 #11
Tom Raum is little more than a Republican mouthpiece shawn703 Apr 2012 #12
Republicans talk down a college education so that their base ... JoePhilly Apr 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author xzwq Apr 2012 #21
Oh, but bailing out wall street was just pocket change. Quantess Apr 2012 #16
this part *really* pisses me off magical thyme Apr 2012 #19
I don't blame you for being p.o. What were you trained for? PM me if you want. nt raccoon Apr 2012 #22
This isn't the student's fault anymore than it was the homeowners fault during the last crash. fasttense Apr 2012 #20
Thanks fasttense. Yes, it's starting all over again...blame the victim... truth2power Apr 2012 #26
And the government just out-sourced the enlightenment Apr 2012 #27
The very first sentence is a lie. It was never a good idea, it was a sop Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #29
"Nothing screws up a common good as well as turning it into a profit center." Damn! SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2012 #35
By all means, We should burn that into the brains of every single person on earth. n/t Egalitarian Thug Apr 2012 #43
The end of the "Reagan Revolution" begins here. hunter Apr 2012 #38
Free. the. students!! Declare a jubilee for student debt. patrice Apr 2012 #48
That would include me... and-justice-for-all Apr 2012 #50
They will take your student loan out of your Social Security. That is not a joke. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2012 #54
I wish somebody could turn student loan forgiveness into a political issue. limpyhobbler Apr 2012 #57
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