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1. How "Nobel" of them. n/t

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White House makes it official : US 'at war' with IS [View all] candelista Sep 2014 OP

How "Nobel" of them. n/t Psephos Sep 2014 #1

Why is everyone so obsessed with that word, "war"? George II Sep 2014 #2

Because it carries a lot of freight. candelista Sep 2014 #3

I think you're wrong GP6971 Sep 2014 #5

Correct....horrible to compare but ~400K in WWII, "only" 35K in Korea, but the point is.... George II Sep 2014 #17

Agree. n/t GP6971 Sep 2014 #35

What?????? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #6

I stand (stood?) corrected, 400K in WWII, 35K in Korea, but Korea was never considered a "war"! George II Sep 2014 #18

It was, and is, "considered" one by the people who fought it . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #24

Sure it was GP6971 Sep 2014 #37

Over a 100,000 in the Pacific theatre alone GP6971 Sep 2014 #36

It has a clear Constitutional meaning Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #58

In the U.S. constitutionally only the U.S. Congress can declare "War" harun Sep 2014 #72

The knee jerk war humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #4

President Obama should not have to be goaded into anything yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #7

You're right. candelista Sep 2014 #8

Then he must have been intentionally misleading us in his election campaigns . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #14

Never do "this"? What? George II Sep 2014 #19

Carry on a pointless war in Iraq . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #21

And he did end one, but this "war" isn't nearly as pointless as the one he ended.... George II Sep 2014 #22

Did he stop the war in Iraq? another_liberal Sep 2014 #26

Yes, he is starting it under false pretenses. former9thward Sep 2014 #27

"The only people ISIS threatens are the U.S. stooges in Baghdad" oberliner Sep 2014 #41

That's the same logic as the 9/11 wars. CJCRANE Sep 2014 #46

Not a call for war, just a statement of fact oberliner Sep 2014 #47

Then maybe it should be covered by arab journalists, no? humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #54

Sorry, they have been told NOT to go there by our State Department. former9thward Sep 2014 #59

You think Foley did something wrong in 2012 by attempting to report from Syria? oberliner Sep 2014 #60

The State Department said Americans should not go to Syria. former9thward Sep 2014 #64

When did they say that? oberliner Sep 2014 #67

I looked on the State Department site but can't find former9thward Sep 2014 #68

Yeah - that's what I found when I checked the site as well oberliner Sep 2014 #69

You nailed it....n/t humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #53

LOL humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #52

In that case, I suppose you feel that rampant barbarism and genocide should not be stopped? George II Sep 2014 #55

Well with that view than we should be bombing humbled_opinion Sep 2014 #56

Do you think he is weak or something? Joe Turner Sep 2014 #38

I think thirty thousand is more likely . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #15

Hell no, he wasn't goaded into this by anyone. He's doing what he thinks is the right thing to Cha Sep 2014 #29

Thanks, Cha. And Obama is clearly not playing to any crowd, but looking to do the right thing. freshwest Sep 2014 #65

I just turned Rachel Maddow off! coldbeer Sep 2014 #9

Damn! I missed Maddow interviewing Todd? George II Sep 2014 #25

mine too! coldbeer Sep 2014 #70

Developing...Film at 11. BootinUp Sep 2014 #10

I don't recollect Congress passing a declaration of war. N/t roamer65 Sep 2014 #11

AUMF George II Sep 2014 #20

The AUMF which Obama wanted revoked just last year. former9thward Sep 2014 #28

Relying on the AUMF for this is extremely controversial. amandabeech Sep 2014 #31

I believe the imminent threat was to US personnel and facilities in Iraq--I think the TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #61

I would like to see the brief that was prepared for this. amandabeech Sep 2014 #62

Iraq is one country we won't leave. I don't think we could honestly bear the TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #63

Exactly! Who's appropriating our money???????? Damn them all. TheNutcracker Sep 2014 #43

oh, how nice. Another war not recognized by Congress. liberal_at_heart Sep 2014 #12

I think our bombs killing scores and hundreds of their people made it "official" . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #13

I prefer calling police actions, police actions, myself. Gore1FL Sep 2014 #16

This is foreign policy by comic book. rug Sep 2014 #23

What do you think it is?.. A gawd damn tea party? Just because putin's too cowardly to admit Cha Sep 2014 #30

thank goodness for those who know and understand the whole picture. Joe Turner Sep 2014 #40

Senator Bernie Sanders is exponentially smarter than the internet websters who know how to Cha Sep 2014 #44

I like Sanders a lot Joe Turner Sep 2014 #45

It's the propaganda climate. candelista Sep 2014 #48

The White House CANNOT make a war 'official.' Maedhros Sep 2014 #32

I don't think it's an attempt to DECLARE war, as Congress would do. TwilightGardener Sep 2014 #34

We certainly will make more friends sadoldgirl Sep 2014 #33

And how do we pay for it? Brigid Sep 2014 #39

We can borrow the money from China, and print some up. candelista Sep 2014 #49

second-terms, are always difficult quadrature Sep 2014 #42

“We’re not going to see an end to this in our lifetime,” retired Air Force general Charles F Wald jakeXT Sep 2014 #50

The crusades lasted a long time, too. Centuries. candelista Sep 2014 #57

I'm afraid that wherther we like it or not . . . Brigid Sep 2014 #66

Just wait until they declare "war" on the freelance polluters who don't give a crap... Amonester Sep 2014 #71

Send all of the warmongers first. liberalmuse Sep 2014 #51