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In reply to the discussion: Porn conviction tossed over military’s surveillance role [View all]bananas
(27,509 posts)6. Navy Guilty of Illegally Broad Online Searches - "routine practice" - not an isolated incident
http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/09/12/71363.htm
Friday, September 12, 2014
Navy Guilty of Illegally Broad Online Searches
By TIM HULL
(CN) - Navy investigators regularly run illegally broad online surveillance operations that breach the line against military enforcement of civilian law, a divided 9th Circuit ruled Friday.
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The 2-1 majority rejected the government's argument that the military is allowed to monitor and search all computers in a state without prior knowledge that a computer's owner is even in the military.
"To accept that position would mean that NCIS agents could, for example, routinely stop suspected drunk drivers in downtown Seattle on the off-chance that a driver is a member of the military, and then turn over all information collected about civilians to the Seattle Police Department for prosecution," wrote Judge Marsha Berzon for the majority.
The panel also warned that the present case suggests that Logan's broad search was not an isolated incident.
"So far as we can tell from the record, it has become a routine practice for the Navy to conduct surveillance of all the civilian computers in an entire state to see whether any child pornography can be found on them, and then to turn over the information to civilian law enforcement when no military connection exists," the ruling states.
"We have here abundant evidence that the violation at issue has occurred repeatedly and frequently, and that the government believes that its conduct is permissible, despite prior cautions by our court and others that military personnel, including NCIS agents, may not enforce the civilian laws."
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Friday, September 12, 2014
Navy Guilty of Illegally Broad Online Searches
By TIM HULL
(CN) - Navy investigators regularly run illegally broad online surveillance operations that breach the line against military enforcement of civilian law, a divided 9th Circuit ruled Friday.
<snip>
The 2-1 majority rejected the government's argument that the military is allowed to monitor and search all computers in a state without prior knowledge that a computer's owner is even in the military.
"To accept that position would mean that NCIS agents could, for example, routinely stop suspected drunk drivers in downtown Seattle on the off-chance that a driver is a member of the military, and then turn over all information collected about civilians to the Seattle Police Department for prosecution," wrote Judge Marsha Berzon for the majority.
The panel also warned that the present case suggests that Logan's broad search was not an isolated incident.
"So far as we can tell from the record, it has become a routine practice for the Navy to conduct surveillance of all the civilian computers in an entire state to see whether any child pornography can be found on them, and then to turn over the information to civilian law enforcement when no military connection exists," the ruling states.
"We have here abundant evidence that the violation at issue has occurred repeatedly and frequently, and that the government believes that its conduct is permissible, despite prior cautions by our court and others that military personnel, including NCIS agents, may not enforce the civilian laws."
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Navy Guilty of Illegally Broad Online Searches - "routine practice" - not an isolated incident
bananas
Sep 2014
#6
OK Am I the only one concerned about this magic program that can search the hardrives
leeroysphitz
Sep 2014
#8
The exclusionary rule works to protect the people who run the system, . . .
freedom fighter jh
Sep 2014
#9
Doesnt this also open up the states that used such evidence in cases to civil lawsuits?
cstanleytech
Sep 2014
#30
Well I'm just wondering if say it can be proven that the states used this evidence to get
cstanleytech
Sep 2014
#34
Yes, it is. The problem is, the circumstances under which the crime was uncovered.
Hoppy
Sep 2014
#12
Can't use illegally obtained evidence in court. Crime and conviction two different things.
McCamy Taylor
Sep 2014
#19
with cloud drives and the like, you might simply assume that everything on your
DeadEyeDyck
Sep 2014
#15
Might not be a program thats the main source but rather it could the ISPs.
cstanleytech
Sep 2014
#31