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zipplewrath

(16,698 posts)
44. The NRA dreams them up
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 08:31 AM
Apr 2012

SYG wasn't a response to a gun control effort. It was dreamed up by the NRA folks when they didn't like court decisions that convicted gun users after killing people "unnecessarily". It was a reaction in essence to the "duty to retreat" concept that the courts had developed over the years.

One can make the case that those decisions had gone too far. There was alot of silliness about people dragging folks back over door steps and the like. But the end result has been a law that now encourages an "ability to pursue". As soon as you stick the gun in your pocket, you've chosen to understand the law in a certain amount of detail, and one should have some additional burden placed upon you for determining the appropriate use of the weapon.

The intent, and accomplishment, of the SYG law was to actually reduce the responsibility down as far as possible.

Their legislative model is to write the text of legislation, and then work as much as possible to avoid input from other interested parties, avoiding to the greatest extent possible any hearings, or opportunities for amendments, and then get it passed through intense lobbying efforts for specific legislators. Consensus building is NOT in the plan.

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Now. Not later. no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #1
Stand Your Ground is as responsible for this murder as Zimmerman is. onehandle Apr 2012 #2
It's an election year. Baitball Blogger Apr 2012 #3
maybe more so george the killer may not have felt so enabled to kill w/o this law leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #27
Good Johnson20 Apr 2012 #4
No. This law needs to be changed before yet another fool JDPriestly Apr 2012 #11
I think you misunderstand the basic problem ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #35
Really? bongbong Apr 2012 #36
Please cite specific cases. ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #41
Here ya go bongbong Apr 2012 #45
Hurray for you! ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #51
Self-defense is a defense. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #48
Now there's a reasonable position ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #53
Rick Scott is not a Governor DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #5
Rick Scott is not a Human onehandle Apr 2012 #6
holey socks..that scared me florida08 Apr 2012 #13
Trayvon may have been 17 years old. jonthebru Apr 2012 #7
Blaming the victim bongbong Apr 2012 #16
What do you think NOLALady Apr 2012 #34
This law should have never been passed to begin with. Harriety Apr 2012 #8
If what I have heard so far is correct, ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #9
The Tampa Bay Times has recently reported on several instances where an armed person HooptieWagon Apr 2012 #14
I agree ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #15
Huh? bongbong Apr 2012 #17
Come on now ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #30
COme on is right bongbong Apr 2012 #37
Please cite specific cases. ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #42
H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S bongbong Apr 2012 #46
Does a Democratic person who introduces SYG legislation satisfy your requirement... -..__... Apr 2012 #49
Here we go again bongbong Apr 2012 #50
so you believe in the way it is supposed to work? chknltl Apr 2012 #26
There isn't enough time left in my day to address all that is wrong with society and our government ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #32
Presented, not written zipplewrath Apr 2012 #29
Under what model ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #33
Look harder bongbong Apr 2012 #38
Show me. ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #43
OK bongbong Apr 2012 #47
I didn't ask for directions. ObamaFTW2012 Apr 2012 #52
The NRA dreams them up zipplewrath Apr 2012 #44
Exactly, That's the scarey part of things. It's crazy. Ecumenist Apr 2012 #20
You are correct the that SYG is not applicable ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #25
Here is my problem with this law. JDPriestly Apr 2012 #10
I'll have to remember that d_legendary1 Apr 2012 #23
You are missing several key points ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #24
Nothing is going to happened Iliyah Apr 2012 #12
Rename SYG bongbong Apr 2012 #18
I've been calling it Randomthought Apr 2012 #19
Prior post in GD ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #21
I see this as PR for the state senator who is up for election this year ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2012 #22
if trayvon's death stops this law or changes it enough to stop further murders then perhaps he'll leftyohiolib Apr 2012 #28
Here comes DU's mouthy gun enthusiasts Kolesar Apr 2012 #31
ain't that the truth! bongbong Apr 2012 #39
Let's get the task force to review 'conceal and carry' law, while they're at it. ancianita Apr 2012 #40
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