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85. I can't see Cameron standing down anytime soon ..

Sat Sep 20, 2014, 11:29 AM

Sep 2014

the election is 2015 after-all and Cleggs ratings are lower than a sewer.

Cameron now has a headache as offering Scotland further devolved powers has put him in the position where all States must be given equal powers. We'll see how that works out I guess.

The Lib Dems wanted a play at power and as they did not have enough votes to work with Labour and have a majority (IIRC seats would have been ~50/50) they jumped into bed with the Tories and were slammed for it. In terms of percentage of the vote Lib Dems were not far behind Labour shockingly (I guess we can blame B-liar for that) however in terms of seats they were.

I have little faith in the current Political landscape and had hoped (maybe naively) that an Independent Scotland would have offered a new dynamic.

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Scottish independence: Voting under way in referendum [View all] Turborama Sep 2014 OP

yes 1dogleft Sep 2014 #1

Either way.. Helen Borg Sep 2014 #3

In this case it means "the slogan created by an issue's proponents" MrModerate Sep 2014 #5

Very fair comment. dipsydoodle Sep 2014 #7

People are voting No .. Lenomsky Sep 2014 #25

And I'm not there, so . . . MrModerate Sep 2014 #31

and neither are your co-workers .. Lenomsky Sep 2014 #34

I've been thinking that even a squeaker "no" victory is a defeat for Cameron and the politicat Sep 2014 #49

I can't see Cameron standing down anytime soon .. Lenomsky Sep 2014 #85

Ah. So a year of grumbling & planning to dump the whole slate politicat Sep 2014 #86

Well, my co-workers do have family in-country . . . MrModerate Sep 2014 #79

It's moot now ... Lenomsky Sep 2014 #84

I agree. Adrahil Sep 2014 #36

What a ridiculous comment... brooklynite Sep 2014 #32

Obviously, you are a Freedom Hater! :) Helen Borg Sep 2014 #57

Voting against separating is not necessarily an indication of not wanting freedom. merrily Sep 2014 #43

Indepenence 1dogleft Sep 2014 #70

I think there is a legitimate case iandhr Sep 2014 #61

What time (and in which time zone) do you think people will have a merrily Sep 2014 #2

Just heard on the radio here (Philly) that ~7:00 pm ET tonight BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #4

Thank you! I am so curious about the outcome! merrily Sep 2014 #6

You'll never make it in modern politics with THAT attitude. Ken Burch Sep 2014 #9

Luckily, I was never under that particular delusion, so merrily Sep 2014 #11

PS Much easier to let the ideology go when it's not your own country. merrily Sep 2014 #44

First results around 9pm Eastern; overall result unlikely before midnight eastern muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #12

Thanks so much, MV. merrily Sep 2014 #16

Standard practice over there. And hand-marked, paper ballots. riqster Sep 2014 #77

Election officials are promising a decision by "breakfast time" tomorrow. brooklynite Sep 2014 #33

Hard to tell. Unless the polls are wrong, it could go down to the wire. NT Adrahil Sep 2014 #37

I cannot imagine the suspense. Either way, it so momentous. merrily Sep 2014 #45

So if this huge chunk pulls out from under the British monarchy Adenoid_Hynkel Sep 2014 #8

They're keeping the monarchy either way (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #13

Right. I suppose they will have a Governor General, like Canada & Oz. candelista Sep 2014 #38

I haven't heard they'd use one, no muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #40

Thanks for the link. candelista Sep 2014 #69

I think AH is saying he doesn't want to hear about them anymore, whether you merrily Sep 2014 #46

The title implied A_H thought Scotland would become a republic muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #53

Oh, you meant that Scotland will keep merrily Sep 2014 #54

Thanks for your response on the other thread (or this one?) about the debt. But how does freshwest Sep 2014 #62

Mary Queen of Scots was executed by QE1, but she had been in a plot to overthrow her muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #68

Thanks. Still find it odd that anyone wants royalty? What special powers do they have that make them freshwest Sep 2014 #73

Not happening. merrily Sep 2014 #17

How about the Duchess of York? candelista Sep 2014 #39

The question was whether the US media might stop reporting on the royals. merrily Sep 2014 #41

Independence wouldn't mean an end to the monarchy, even in Scotland LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #29

Please see Reply 46. merrily Sep 2014 #47

Probably we saw it in the same way because we're both Brits and thus interested in this referendum LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #51

Why do the 'Queen's realms' want her? They have PMs as the executor of laws passed by Parliament. freshwest Sep 2014 #63

The queen would not just be a "nominal" head of state. candelista Sep 2014 #71

16-17-year-olds get to vote on Scottish independence Baclava Sep 2014 #10

Wow, that's outside the box. merrily Sep 2014 #14

I got Scottish blood - maybe I can emigrate...duel citizenship Baclava Sep 2014 #74

I see nothing wrong with the young having a stake in their future Baclava Sep 2014 #78

I think kids may mature faster these days. merrily Sep 2014 #83

16 Year old are adults in Law ... Lenomsky Sep 2014 #35

Cameron is done... KJG52 Sep 2014 #15

Welcome to DU. If Cameron is done, do you think merrily Sep 2014 #18

How populist is Nick Clegg and the LibDems? BlueEye Sep 2014 #19

Another question: who would you like to see succeed Cameron? merrily Sep 2014 #20

Hahahaha Bosonic Sep 2014 #21

That's funny. Sitting here, I saw Brown as doing a pretty good job. merrily Sep 2014 #23

I think he was our best PM in 35 years - perhaps that's not saying much! LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #52

Ah, so your media is like ours, a tool first of the right and second of the establishment, merrily Sep 2014 #56

Yes - some of it is even owned by the same person (Murdoch)! LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #65

Of course. Why would he bless only the US with fairness and balance? merrily Sep 2014 #67

Brown: much better man than Blair, much worse politician (perhaps those go hand-in-hand?) Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #76

I just did not have a good gut feeling about Blair. merrily Sep 2014 #82

Not very! Labour is more so, but, at leadership level, not enormously. LeftishBrit Sep 2014 #30

Quite the opposite is true actually oberliner Sep 2014 #22

Thanks. I gathered that. Pity. But, given that, I can merrily Sep 2014 #24

My thought as well. KamaAina Sep 2014 #55

Let's kilt shop together. merrily Sep 2014 #59

Maybe the rUK Labour Party will be encouraged to go back to its roots. Demit Sep 2014 #27

We leftists all seem to dream. We can also do more than dream. merrily Sep 2014 #48

His successor as Tory leader would be a placeholder (probably Osborne at this point, maybe Hague) Spider Jerusalem Sep 2014 #75

Cameron KJG52 Sep 2014 #80

Interesting how many posts are pro-secession The2ndWheel Sep 2014 #26

but, but, but..... what about Balmoral? will it just become a tourist attraction *sarcasm* secondwind Sep 2014 #28

Very interesting. harun Sep 2014 #42

Actually, the Queen owns Balmoral outright. It's not like some of the other royal residences amandabeech Sep 2014 #50

Who gets the Stone of Scone? lovuian Sep 2014 #58

Scotland. okasha Sep 2014 #64

One wonders how many millions of pounds the No side has thrown into their campaign KamaAina Sep 2014 #60

No they haven't oberliner Sep 2014 #66

So you're cool with Burger King buying Tim Horton's and moving its HQ to Canada? KamaAina Sep 2014 #72

Those different situations. Adrahil Sep 2014 #81