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Feral Child

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50. You can't win if you don't play.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 11:13 AM
Oct 2014

We'll have to disagree on the drones. Facetiousness aside, I don't see any realistic use to justify the cost.

In addition to their strike-capabilities, the military uses them for surveillance and reconnaissance. In an area where anti-aircraft fire can be particularly dangerous, removal of a human-target pilot and replacing that component with a remote-operator in a safe location makes sense. That's fine in open country with light to non-existent traffic; pretty useless in an urban environment with heavy pedestrian and vehicular traffic. The 2nd hand, DEWAT drones the cops get from the military don't have hover-capability. Like a shark, they have to keep moving.

Evidence and intelligence gathering by the police are adequately serviced by proven tactics: stakeout and observation posts and the occasional following of a suspect by helicopter. Drones aren't especially adept at following cars in heavy traffic. The best they can achieve is photography of static locations, already easily accomplished by helicopter.

Remote operation is tricky and expensive. Since police helicopters aren't often attacked by SAMs, removing the eyes of a pilot is a useless complication. Manned helicopters can be used for lots of other purposes; search and rescue and rapid medevac avoiding traffic-snarls are good examples. Drones would be a single-purpose expense not justifiable by the limited operational use they'd get.

These are just another military toy for local PDs that already have budgeting problems.

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This is why we are all liberals and vote for Democrats... Purveyor Sep 2014 #1
What The Hell Happened To Jerry Brown? billhicks76 Sep 2014 #13
Replacing choppers with drones would increase property values, ucrdem Sep 2014 #15
nothing at all reddread Sep 2014 #18
Pat Brown defeated Richard Nixon in 1959 and was defeated by Ronald Reagan in 1967, ucrdem Sep 2014 #20
So We Need Grassroots Revolution Then billhicks76 Sep 2014 #37
He's running for President. candelista Sep 2014 #23
no way reddread Sep 2014 #25
Your analysis is correct. Especially the last part. candelista Sep 2014 #40
I'm confused. How exactly is there more of a risk with the drones vs say cstanleytech Sep 2014 #2
Because drones are less noticeable rpannier Sep 2014 #7
"Drones are another step in enhancing the police state" Sounds alot like the same cstanleytech Sep 2014 #9
Difference rpannier Sep 2014 #10
So you object because you cant hear them??? cstanleytech Sep 2014 #11
I'm not sure of the logic of this post.... Adrahil Sep 2014 #44
I live in an area of Los Angeles that is rendered almost unlivable at times due to the helicopters/ JDPriestly Sep 2014 #12
On the other hand drones could have some good uses for example cstanleytech Sep 2014 #14
If the police ever did such a thing, no one would ever find out. JDPriestly Sep 2014 #22
While I respect your opinion I totally disagree with it. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #27
Helicopters are only allowed to fly within a certain distance over your house. I don't think that JDPriestly Sep 2014 #41
Depends on the type of drone. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #42
Yes, there is a minimum height that a drone can fly over your house. Xithras Sep 2014 #43
So are planes and helicopters, if they aren't flying at low altitude. jeff47 Sep 2014 #19
They shouldn't have them to begin with. I am not satisfied with limitations on them in the U.S. EEO Sep 2014 #3
+1. But the Police State marches on, with the full cooperation of "Democrats." blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #16
Critics of LAPD urge Brown to veto Gorell's drone bill Tikki Sep 2014 #4
It's like whiplash... SoapBox Sep 2014 #5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Sep 2014 #6
Override the veto rpannier Sep 2014 #8
He needs those to peep into those bedrooms and bathrooms. Hubert Flottz Sep 2014 #17
I'm confused... davidthegnome Sep 2014 #21
I dream of drone dogfights reddread Sep 2014 #26
Keep dreaming then as these drones arent armed. nt cstanleytech Sep 2014 #28
tell that to those we kill with them reddread Sep 2014 #29
Different type of drones bub.nt cstanleytech Sep 2014 #30
same source reddread Sep 2014 #31
Sources doesnt mean shit, they arent armed and thats that. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #32
unreasonable search and seizure reddread Sep 2014 #34
A cop breaking into your house without cause and no warrant cstanleytech Sep 2014 #35
not anymore reddread Sep 2014 #36
Im sure the founding fathers were clear about that reddread Sep 2014 #39
Yet Feral Child Sep 2014 #38
Thats because they dont need to be. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #46
OK Feral Child Oct 2014 #48
Lot of things in this world are possible lol cstanleytech Oct 2014 #49
You can't win if you don't play. Feral Child Oct 2014 #50
Oh the drones have alot of potential real benefits both in utility and in monetary savings. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #51
You make some interesting points. Feral Child Oct 2014 #53
Damn, did it again. Feral Child Oct 2014 #52
Good old moon beam propping up the surveillance state. TheKentuckian Sep 2014 #24
He seems to have changed as he aged. NT Trillo Sep 2014 #33
What's the difference fredamae Sep 2014 #45
Pisses me off. That was a disgusting move on his part. 20score Sep 2014 #47
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