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Dreamer Tatum

(10,996 posts)
20. This thread has to do with one Venezuelan man
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:12 PM
Oct 2014

and as usual, the Wedidtis have hijacked it with information that is probably useful to certain discussions, but not
this one.

And just to humor you, because I LIKE your posts (believe it or not), I opened that link and was highly amused to find the following (which for SOME reason you failed to quote):


------------- Strengthen Democratic Institutions -------------
4. (S) This strategic objective represents the majority of USAID/OTI work in Venezuela. Organized civil society is an increasingly important pillar of democracy, one where President Chavez has not yet been able to assert full control.

5. (S) OTI has supported over 300 Venezuelan civil society organizations with technical assistance, capacity building, connecting them with each other and international movements, and with financial support upwards of $15 million. Of these, 39 organizations focused on advocacy have been formed since the arrival of OTI; many of these organizations as a direct result of OTI programs and funding.

6. (S) Human Rights: OTI supports the Freedom House (FH) "Right to Defend Human Rights" program with $1.1 million. Simultaneously through Development Alternatives Inc. (DAI), OTI has also provided 22 grants to human rights organizations, totaling $726,000. FH provides training and technical assistance to 15 different smaller and regional human rights organizations on how to research, document, and present cases in situations of judicial impunity through a specialized software and proven techniques. Following are some specific successes from this project, which has led to a better understanding internationally of the deteriorating human rights situation in the country: Venezuelan Prison Observatory: Since beginning work with OTI, OVP has taken 1 case successfully through the inter-American system, achieving a ruling requiring BRV special protective measures for the prison "La Pica". Also, on November 7th - 12th they will be launching the Latin-American Prison Observatory, consolidating their work with a regional network. OVP receives technical support from FH, as well as monetary support from Pan American Development Foundation (PADF). Due to the success of the OVP in raising awareness of the issue, the BRV has put pressure on them in the form of public statements, announcing investigations, accusing them of alleged crimes as well as death threats. Central Venezuelan University Human Rights Center: This center was created out of the FH program and a grant from CARACAS 00003356 002.2 OF 004 DAI. They have successfully raised awareness regarding the International Cooperation Law and the human rights situation in Venezuela, and have served as a voice nationally and internationally.


(boldface mine)

So right there onscreen, from your own source, the almighty and holy Wikileaks, which you cited without comment or disclaimer, there appears to be a progress report detailing efforts to bolster human rights in Venezuela, which ostensibly were restricted by, perhaps among other means, JUDICIAL IMPUNITY.

In other words, you're claiming that we are attempting to destabilize Venezuela by implementing the same sort of reforms, visibility, fairness, and oversight that people have been clamoring for in our own country.

Of course, I expect that you will now say something like "yeah, that's what they WANT you to think, but we REALLY know..." To which I have an exclusively semiotic response: .

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Before the "Blame the CIA" crowd arrives... Archae Oct 2014 #1
Bzzt. The CIA did it. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #2
I wouldn't put it past the CIA. It's what people in the spy business call "wet work." Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #28
Yup. It's not that difficult to get murdered in Venezuela. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #3
Accurate post. Feral Child Oct 2014 #11
Substitute immediate outrage with common sense? FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #4
They never arrive as fast as the ''Protect the CIA'' crowd, though. Octafish Oct 2014 #5
I have no interest in protecting the CIA, but most often a cigar is just a cigar. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #6
1947 and CIA Witch hunts seveneyes Oct 2014 #8
This write-up is about policies from the Eisenhower Administration through Nixon... brooklynite Oct 2014 #9
History since then: CIA Venezuela Destabilization Memo Surfaces (2007) Octafish Oct 2014 #10
This doesn't even prove the existence of the memo it describes. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #13
Sure, and all the underhanded State Department crapola that WikiLeaks revealed doesn't exist either. Octafish Oct 2014 #17
This thread has to do with one Venezuelan man Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #20
The death of one person makes all the difference in the world. Octafish Oct 2014 #25
Now I know why the murder rate is so high in Venezuela Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #35
Until then, you should read more. Octafish Oct 2014 #36
Ad hominem is my only option Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #37
''What would Goldman think?'' Octafish Oct 2014 #40
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #41
Only a character assassin would label someone as a 'CTer' Octafish Oct 2014 #47
Said the person who attends JFK CT conventions. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #48
You say that as if it was a bad thing. Octafish Oct 2014 #50
I guess I'd have thought you guys would have reached a consensus by now. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #52
No consensus. Not all guys. Octafish Oct 2014 #55
Every year, from now til forever. Dreamer Tatum Oct 2014 #56
BUT CHILE 1973!!!!!! EX500rider Oct 2014 #58
Thanks for the reminder. It was all too familiar when we heard about it the first time. Typical. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #26
Before damage control arrives....nt Zorra Oct 2014 #7
You're assuming the Company couldn't have recruited "home invaders" to do it. Ken Burch Oct 2014 #45
To the extent that the US government . . FairWinds Oct 2014 #12
VZ is wrecking their own economy just fine by themselves hack89 Oct 2014 #14
I doubt the US really cares about Venezuela anymore. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #15
Washington often does "break butterflies upon the wheel" in Latin America MisterP Oct 2014 #16
Or we can consider that in a country with VZ's sky high murder rate hack89 Oct 2014 #18
How is it the US gives millions of US taxpayers' $ to the Venezuelan opposition during elections? nt Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #30
Haven't seen any hard proof of that claim. FLPanhandle Oct 2014 #31
You haven't seen anything because you never bothered to look. Simple. Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #32
No, the US is not to blame for Venezuela's crime rate. Try blaming, I dunno, the geek tragedy Oct 2014 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2014 #19
So Just to be perfectly clear . . FairWinds Oct 2014 #21
There are no 'righties' in this entire entire post and its sub-threads. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #22
Maduro is driving that bus into a ditch just fine on his own. Throd Oct 2014 #23
You don't imagine someone who mocks a man who drove a bus as a young man, at a Democratic website, Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #34
I'm sure he's a fine bus driver. Calm down. Throd Oct 2014 #42
They can't very well deny it, can they? US taxdollars are loaded into Venezuelan right-wingers' Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #33
Extreme hyperbole. Calm down nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #44
If you think it is acceptable for the USG . . FairWinds Oct 2014 #24
Your comments have real value. People who are democratic by nature can see that easily. Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #27
Pro-government Venezuela lawmaker slain at home Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #29
Robert Serra was the chavista paramilitaries' guy in Congress. Bacchus4.0 Oct 2014 #38
Which makes it more reasonable to wonder if he was killed for political reasons. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #39
Or simple vengeance. Nt hack89 Oct 2014 #46
OK, so here is Bacchus . . FairWinds Oct 2014 #49
Well the picture of the two together I posted, here is more about the criminal Santana Bacchus4.0 Oct 2014 #51
The Agency's Anti-Chavista long-knives are out, again. ~nt~ 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #54
The Agency appears to be ramping up it's "Anti-Chavista" crusade. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #53
Sure Baccus, so purely by accident you happened to come across . . FairWinds Oct 2014 #57
Oh it wasn't by accident, here is another one for you. Hugo asks for actions against Satana Bacchus4.0 Oct 2014 #59
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