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freshwest

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23. Denial is not just a river in Egypt as the song goes. Tempting fate is common. That's why the GOP
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 07:42 PM
Oct 2014
shouldn't have slashed Obama's package for dealing with Ebola in half. And I didn't say he shouldnt be charged by Liberia, but if he dies, and he may, it's a moot point, isn't it?

Nothing will bring him back to life, nor anyone that he infected who may or may not survive.

There is also a case of a woman in the hospital in NYC and another woman in London, who may not have touched someone as sick as the woman in the taxi was. I'll bet there are more than them, too, as another story says they suspect it in Utah, too.

I won't scapegoat this guy for a disease. I refuse to hate this guy, he is not 'Ground Zero' for Ebola in the USA, and nothing changes what happened in NYC, London or Emory where the aid workers with Ebola were treated.

Note, they survived the disease. Part of the reason there is hope for a cure is that not all people die from it and their blood is used as a source of anti-bodies to treat others with the disease.

This guy is not the be all and end all of Ebola, no more than gays, who at one time were maligned over AIDS, to the point of people wanting them to be quarantined in camps or even killed, as some wanted to shoot the kids crossing the border from Mexico.

The enemy is not people, it's the disease and the ignorance. Stating that I think Denial is a large part of the problem, is NOT the same as my condoning what he did.

If he dies and cannot be brought to trial for this, where will the outrage be directed next?


I'm glad somebody is stepping into this breach of good health, manners, citizenship Demeter Oct 2014 #1
I bet the inmates in the jail are looking forward to this guy's arrival. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #2
Life in prison or the death penalty? Sopkoviak Oct 2014 #3
If he had stayed in Liberia, he would be dead or dying now Ex Lurker Oct 2014 #4
Exactly. herding cats Oct 2014 #5
Harm Americans erpowers Oct 2014 #12
I doubt that was his intention. herding cats Oct 2014 #13
I agree. Denial was probably at work with him. He even went home to his family. Doubt he meant harm. freshwest Oct 2014 #19
He knew he was in contact with a person who died a short time later. LisaL Oct 2014 #21
Denial is not just a river in Egypt as the song goes. Tempting fate is common. That's why the GOP freshwest Oct 2014 #23
he will never go back 1dogleft Oct 2014 #24
I think that was a political statement, not a true expectation. Nice words. Changes nothing. freshwest Oct 2014 #30
It's not out of the realm of possibility, but if he'd wanted to do that he wouldn't have gone to kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #26
So it's okay Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #46
I didn't say it's okay Ex Lurker Oct 2014 #47
How could bureaucracy fail?! ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #6
easy, put people who profit from its failure in charge of it. corkhead Oct 2014 #8
BINGO!!! calimary Oct 2014 #9
+1000 Dopers_Greed Oct 2014 #10
Why did the US grant him a visa, anyway? Psephos Oct 2014 #7
He isn't even a NATIVE Liberian? rocktivity Oct 2014 #11
He probably came on a tourist visa. Almost anybody can do that. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #27
Why are planes even still arriving from Liberia? Cayenne Oct 2014 #14
He took three flights KansDem Oct 2014 #17
They aren't. There are no direct flights from Liberia to the USA. nt uppityperson Oct 2014 #31
Puzzling... shanti Oct 2014 #49
It would almost make one think that it isn't highly contagious and only through contact with bodily uppityperson Oct 2014 #50
The question should be christx30 Oct 2014 #53
It'd be interesting to know at what stage the ebola outbreak was at when he went to Liberia. snagglepuss Oct 2014 #15
Rick Perry will protect him Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #16
I don't think Duncan is going to pull thru this... ReRe Oct 2014 #18
Shouldn't they wait and see if he survives first? LisaL Oct 2014 #20
Screeeeeeeeeech .. you mean that's all they have is a damn questionnaire asking them about symptoms YOHABLO Oct 2014 #22
That sounds impractical Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #25
They also check temperatures. But they clearly don't have good contact tracing and isolation kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #28
They don't have enough medical professionals to treat the ill, much less check every departing uppityperson Oct 2014 #32
I think every medical professional in Liberia is busy treating victims of the disease. hedgehog Oct 2014 #35
His disregard for other lives is obviously apparent Drayden Oct 2014 #29
1.He didn't know he was sick. 2. He didn't know he was exposed to Ebola mainer Oct 2014 #33
Who assumed this woman died from complications of pregnancy? LisaL Oct 2014 #34
It was reported on the TV news last night mainer Oct 2014 #37
Per NYT, she was takend to an Ebola ward but turned away for lack of space. LisaL Oct 2014 #38
Another article says family thought it was from pregnancy. mainer Oct 2014 #40
only two of her family members took her to the hospital TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #43
Scroll down to "production" it's pretty fascinating. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #44
Thanks, mainer. Some of MSM wants us to react like this: freshwest Oct 2014 #48
Question: what would have happened to the money he spent on the plane tickets if he had hedgehog Oct 2014 #36
Probably not refundable tickets, as most tickets are these days. LisaL Oct 2014 #39
"We expect people to do the honorable thing," Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #41
It's not clear the man lied on his form mainer Oct 2014 #42
Good Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #45
I bet the penalty for this isn't nearly as bad as HAVING EBOLA. n/t hughee99 Oct 2014 #51
The question is CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #52
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