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48. Dark Side of the Boom

Thu Oct 2, 2014, 09:59 PM

Oct 2014

And then there is this...

"But there is a dark side to the multibillion-dollar boom in the oil fields, which stretch across western North Dakota into Montana and part of Canada. The arrival of highly paid oil workers living in sprawling “man camps” with limited spending opportunities has led to a crime wave -- including murders, aggravated assaults, rapes, human trafficking and robberies -- fueled by a huge market for illegal drugs, primarily heroin and methamphetamine."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2014/09/28/dark-side-of-the-boom/

However, it is average people with chronic disabilities and pain -- almost all war veterans and almost anyone over 60 has something chronic -- and the doctors who are trying to help them live their lives productively that are terrorized and demonized by the DEA as agents of death and addiction.

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Heroin deaths double after painkiller crackdown [View all] OhioChick Oct 2014 OP

These docs have handed out pain pills like candy for lots of years Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #1

I was a long term recipient. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #3

Pain medicine terrifies me Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #10

No, the only thing it has done is raise ballyhoo Oct 2014 #24

For some of us, it's the only answer... freebrew Oct 2014 #28

As someone who has lived with Worried senior Oct 2014 #30

You're so right catbyte Oct 2014 #78

Well it has begun Worried senior Oct 2014 #91

I'm so sorry you are going through this. It may be impossible, but is there a pain clinic in your catbyte Oct 2014 #92

Thanks Worried senior Oct 2014 #93

Yes, everything you are saying is true. Agony Oct 2014 #37

thankyou LiberalLovinLug Oct 2014 #45

People who are not living with pain won't understand. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #47

Has nothing to do with morals...I was talking about addicted patients Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #49

Seems to me that enlightenment Oct 2014 #62

I didn't start this thread Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #63

I suspect that had you enlightenment Oct 2014 #65

Yep. Ibuprofen and acetaminophen are less effective and much more damaging. hunter Oct 2014 #68

Opiates work for me... freebrew Oct 2014 #75

Popping NSAIDS caused my body to rebel & I developed an anaphylatic reaction to them. catbyte Oct 2014 #81

Yes, some are going to suffer....... mrmpa Oct 2014 #44

"Yes some are going to suffer..." catbyte Oct 2014 #79

I hear you. SpankMe Oct 2014 #13

For many people, opiates don't work shanti Oct 2014 #64

and for me they're pretty effective cali Oct 2014 #74

Chronic pain patients irisblue Oct 2014 #33

Increase also perhaps due to fighting a decade of war in heroin capital of the world. DLnyc Oct 2014 #2

Yep libodem Oct 2014 #19

I have seen no reports of troops addicted to heroin in Afghanistan. former9thward Oct 2014 #42

Interesting DLnyc Oct 2014 #58

Afghan is similar to Vietnam only with respect it is a hopeless losing war. former9thward Oct 2014 #60

Dark Side of the Boom wave_maker Oct 2014 #48

In States With Medical Marijuana, Painkiller Deaths Drop by 25% tridim Oct 2014 #4

Roll on legalisation Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #43

The new law makes you have to choose between pain meds and marijuana Nictuku Oct 2014 #77

Weird that they are singling out the "painkiller crackdown" Dopers_Greed Oct 2014 #5

It is a rather circular argument. 99th_Monkey Oct 2014 #9

"The increase in heroin use is due in part to cracking down on the prescription painkillers" Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #6

" I just pictured Rush bent over..." < I can't finish the rest of the post. jtuck004 Oct 2014 #8

Yes, it's not the spoon and the candle, it's the bend. Shrike47 Oct 2014 #31

Did you ever see that video where the guy is texting and walks around the corner to find a moose jtuck004 Oct 2014 #36

The bear! that was a crazy video! Marrah_G Oct 2014 #38

Here's the bear. I think I've seen a moose video too. hunter Oct 2014 #76

That's the one I was thinking of. Thank you. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #85

As a side-effect, those of us with legit chronic pain are struggling. Akoto Oct 2014 #7

Unfortunately, the perception of providers trying to find other solutions to pain Aristus Oct 2014 #18

A friend of mine with chronic pain got it under control with antidepressants and marijuana Dopers_Greed Oct 2014 #20

My job is made a lot easier by the fact that marijuana is now legally available over-the-counter Aristus Oct 2014 #23

I am lucky that my pain in nerve pain Marrah_G Oct 2014 #39

Re: Unfortunately Akoto Oct 2014 #41

My PA is a wonderful person UglyGreed Oct 2014 #57

Thank you. Aristus Oct 2014 #59

You're welcome UglyGreed Oct 2014 #61

A little off topic UglyGreed Oct 2014 #66

Ooh, that is so right! Delphinus Oct 2014 #80

You're Welcome :) n/t UglyGreed Oct 2014 #84

I am sorry for your pain Horse with no Name Oct 2014 #50

I don't know where you live, but here most GPs refuse to prescribe narcotic pain meds. catbyte Oct 2014 #82

The law of unintended consequences is both cold and certain. Psephos Oct 2014 #11

In this case it would be to follow the recomendation of Timothy Leary... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #14

Look at this answer by the CDC whoseits... jtuck004 Oct 2014 #12

US neurologists warn against long-term opioid use for non-cancer pain postulater Oct 2014 #15

Wow UglyGreed Oct 2014 #53

I'll bet more than half of all alcohol users taking alcohol for three months... hunter Oct 2014 #83

It will only get worse now Scairp Oct 2014 #16

Whenever the government tries to solve a problem they always ballyhoo Oct 2014 #25

In some cases the alternative drugs are worse... FloriTexan Oct 2014 #17

Don't be sorry UglyGreed Oct 2014 #56

Bad docs put good docs on the spot, and junkies screw chronic-pain patients, to be blunt. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #21

'cause the WOD is such a rational approach to drug abuse. nt. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #22

Less than 4% of prescription opiate users become addicts. Xithras Oct 2014 #26

That is exactly what it is. I'll find out more when ballyhoo Oct 2014 #27

I agree wholeheartedly. Addiction versus Dependency is little understood. Akoto Oct 2014 #46

probably going to increase even further with hydrocodone being rescheduled to CII frylock Oct 2014 #29

I have a chronic pain condition and use 1 5 mg hydrocodone per day, on average. You'd think it Shrike47 Oct 2014 #32

someone we know had surgery demigoddess Oct 2014 #34

What did you UglyGreed Oct 2014 #67

I've been watching doctors be wrong about demigoddess Oct 2014 #69

So are you UglyGreed Oct 2014 #70

I have a 40 some year old daughter who demigoddess Oct 2014 #72

since UglyGreed Oct 2014 #73

Is that what will fredamae Oct 2014 #35

Gee whiz, what a fucking surprise Warpy Oct 2014 #40

i take norco 10-325 -- 2 a day. i break DesertFlower Oct 2014 #51

This is fucking idiocy, seriously, addiction and dependency are public health issues... Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #52

Yeah evil pills UglyGreed Oct 2014 #54

does everyone think this is ALL 'imported' heroin? Sunlei Oct 2014 #55

Many people who become addicted to heroin are living a normal life?????? UglyGreed Oct 2014 #71

You would be surprised.... Red State Rebel Oct 2014 #86

I was just surprised UglyGreed Oct 2014 #87

is your daughter OK now? Skittles Oct 2014 #95

Steve Earle Doctor_J Oct 2014 #88

Just like UglyGreed Oct 2014 #89

True, Steve's been married 7-8 times Doctor_J Oct 2014 #90

Fucking legalize weed already. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #94

I Hope People Realize Methadone Centers Saves Lives While Heroin Continues To Kill... Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #96