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43. "Separation of Church and State" is NOT in the First Amendment or any other part of the Consitution

Fri Oct 3, 2014, 12:37 AM

Oct 2014

Read the first, all it calls for is that CONGRESS will NOT favor OR disfavor any religion.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

The Phase "Seperation of Church and State" first appears in a letter from Jefferson written in 1819. It was given little weight at that time for the simple reason it appeared more for something to strive to as opposed to being the actual law. It was revived in 1875 when Grant used it in a speech in support of Federal Funding of Education, but only to public schools. This lead to the proposed "Blaine Amendment", which passed the house, but did NOT get the 2/3rds vote in the Senate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaine_Amendment

Thus our founding fathers did NOT support "Separation of Church and State" for practical reasons more then any dogmatic reasons (The Church was still the best way to get news to the people as a whole then the newspapers of the time period, that would change by the 1860s, but that is the 1860s NOT the 1790s when the Bill or Rights was written).

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Scalia: It Is A Lie That Gov't Cannot Favor Religion Over Secularism [View all] blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 OP

Scalia is one sick mfer...nt StopTheNeoCons Oct 2014 #1

A towering intellect indeed! radiclib Oct 2014 #2

I love how Scalia says the Constitution is a dead thing. Doesn't match his rightwing activism! blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #3

DANG! Well that's what smug little GW Bushnazi said too.."The Constitution's just a piece of paper" misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #30

Can't wait til that sick pile of shit either quits the court or dies. nt Lucky Luciano Oct 2014 #4

The worst Supreme Court judge in my lifetime is Scalia kimbutgar Oct 2014 #5

You limit it to karma? Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #12

But why destroy three perfectly good cars in the process? bvf Oct 2014 #20

That would be perfectly acceptable too Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #21

I also could get behind that kimbutgar Oct 2014 #69

Right there with you,bro Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #72

Not just... 3catwoman3 Oct 2014 #77

Scaliy Scalia Plucketeer Oct 2014 #6

yet, somehow all the notes and letters from the people who actually wrote the constitution whereisjustice Oct 2014 #7

To say nothing about the evolution of the amendment in both houses of congress. longship Oct 2014 #22

That is Madison notes, not trusted by everyone... happyslug Oct 2014 #42

Madison disagreed with the Bill of Rights freefaller62 Oct 2014 #44

Linen was the preferred paper, they were transferred to parchment only later if at all happyslug Oct 2014 #45

Linen paper freefaller62 Oct 2014 #84

I guess it applies only to Christianity. JEFF9K Oct 2014 #8

I call it "Republianity" Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #11

Forget US history huh. Iliyah Oct 2014 #9

"Separation of Church and State" is NOT in the First Amendment or any other part of the Consitution happyslug Oct 2014 #43

Bullshit. Congress makes law. Judges interpret law. The President enforces law. demwing Oct 2014 #73

That is NOT how the US Supreme Court has ruled, and that includes dissents happyslug Oct 2014 #75

"The rationale used to justify Chaplains..." demwing Oct 2014 #78

No, Tony, your "jurisprudence" is the lie Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #10

Looks like our strict constructionist is coming apart at the seams. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #13

"it's "a lie" that the government cannot favor one religion over another"? douggg Oct 2014 #14

Scalia probably had a little too much booze. candelista Oct 2014 #15

Frankly he should resign now as he totally is butchering the Constitution to suit his own religion. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #16

However, the cardinal priciple is that everything Scalia says is a lie Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #17

There is no doubt in my mind defacto7 Oct 2014 #18

The founders and the founding Congress disagree, Justice Douchebag! longship Oct 2014 #19

Fuck that guy! BrotherIvan Oct 2014 #23

Article 11, The Treaty of Tripoli Monk06 Oct 2014 #24

The man is clearly senile. n/t ReRe Oct 2014 #25

If we adhere to traditional Christian values then why does Scalia repeatedly break several of the Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #26

"utterly absurd" - translation: 'I'm wrong, so I gotta double down, or else closeupready Oct 2014 #27

Dangerous ignorance on the Supreme Court. marmar Oct 2014 #28

He should be impeached he isn't even pretending to follow the law Kalidurga Oct 2014 #29

But it is true that his brain is separated from his mouth. rug Oct 2014 #31

I want Freedom FROM Religion...period. SoapBox Oct 2014 #32

Cause to impeach Diremoon Oct 2014 #33

Him being there is an ethics violation. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #34

How much was Scalia paid for this speech? Midnight Writer Oct 2014 #35

Oh he's paid with pennies from heaven :) n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #40

The Pledge of Allegiance... Oldtimeralso Oct 2014 #36

A lot of the kids in my class said "Underdog", Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #38

AWESOME! n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #41

UNDERDOG! progressoid Oct 2014 #52

That's correct - LibertyLover Oct 2014 #57

The Flushing Remonstrance is cited as the beginning of religious freedom Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #37

That's my beloved hometown, by the way shenmue Oct 2014 #48

The Wiki article said that the Queens Borough President's Office Art_from_Ark Oct 2014 #50

No shenmue Oct 2014 #51

We haven't got a prayer n/t marym625 Oct 2014 #39

I often wonder what is in store... the_sly_pig Oct 2014 #46

I think he sees himself bvf Oct 2014 #53

True as far as it goes MFrohike Oct 2014 #47

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. GeorgeGist Oct 2014 #67

It doesn't speak directly to it MFrohike Oct 2014 #86

Let me just second George's question above FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #82

It doesn't speak directly to it MFrohike Oct 2014 #87

He should have to wear a board that says 'no-establishment clause' shenmue Oct 2014 #49

but its only the 'left' activist judges that matter. pansypoo53219 Oct 2014 #54

Jesus Christ! and I say that in the terms of the Moneychangers in the Temple way Demeter Oct 2014 #55

This is why GOTV is vital: we MUST hold the Senate. riqster Oct 2014 #56

I'm not a lawyer, Delphinus Oct 2014 #58

I bet if suddenly a majority of us converted to Islam or Jewism tomorrow - Scalia will be singing a srican69 Oct 2014 #59

Scalia is wrong and it is clear that he needs to retire soon Gothmog Oct 2014 #60

Scalia is def sick & should be impeached. He is completely bought, sold & biased. hue Oct 2014 #61

Why are there no calls for Scalia's impeachment? albino65 Oct 2014 #62

What law school did he go to? n/t leftyladyfrommo Oct 2014 #63

Well, Scalia should certainly know a lie when he sees one ... eppur_se_muova Oct 2014 #64

Of course it's a lie! rock Oct 2014 #65

This is why Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2014 #66

That should be grounds for impeachment right there! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #68

Hmm. davidthegnome Oct 2014 #70

Fucking asshole seems to ignore the Establishment Clause. sakabatou Oct 2014 #71

This asshole should be impeached or legally removed! santamargarita Oct 2014 #74

And that's the elephant in the room atreides1 Oct 2014 #76

I doubt that most of the last 2000 years is what Jesus had in mind. FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #83

We are going backwards, thanks to this biggest liar of all. merrily Oct 2014 #79

AssClown Award winner BadGimp Oct 2014 #80

And we STILL can't impeach him???? FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #81

Scalia.......just hearing his name makes me sick to my stomach. Beacool Oct 2014 #85

for this alone he should be removed from the court. he's 100% wrong. spanone Oct 2014 #88

It is a Lie that Scalia is Qualified to be on the Supreme Court of the US... Hekate Oct 2014 #89

He is right... Scruffy Rumbler Oct 2014 #90

He proves that it can. n/t Orsino Oct 2014 #91

FUCK. HIM. Adrahil Oct 2014 #92

I have to agree. Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #93

This guy is a hazard to our country's health. calimary Oct 2014 #94