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uppityperson

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13. ARGH! Your organs do not "liquify"
Sat Oct 4, 2014, 06:02 PM
Oct 2014

Your body makes lots of little blood clots that plug up capillaries leading to no blood flow to parts of organs. This kills those parts of the organs. Liver, kidneys, brain, digestive tract, etc.

Parts of the lining of your digestive tract can slough off when it is dead. But it is not liquified.

Because the body has made so many blood clots in inappropriate places, you then can bleed easily. The blood vessels leading into those parts have open ends and can bleed. Anywhere you bump gets bruised, and the bruised grow quickly on your skin. And inside your body.

http://www.africareview.com/Special-Reports/-/979182/1472576/-/vhdyxoz/-/index.html

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There have been claims that Ebola liquifies the body organs of infected people, but Dr Mbabazi disagrees. Instead, he says that Ebola interferes with the clotting and bleeding mechanisms of the body.

“The symptoms are initially non-specific, but liver function may be impaired, blood clotting functions (coagulation) are dysregulated, septic shock and multi-organ failure occurs in most cases that eventually die,” Dr Mbabazi says.

Handshakes have also been said to be a fertile ground for the spread of Ebola. Or aren’t they?Dr Mbabazi agrees because hands easily get contaminated when they get in contact with infected material like sweat, vomit, stool, urine, blood, or any other body fluid. Such materials can be picked by the hand in a hand shake directly or inadvertently from door handles, tables, and chairs.”

On whether victims wear zombie-like faces, infectious disease expert Dr Philippe Calain says: “At the end of the disease the patient does not look, from the outside, as horrible as you can read in some books. They are not melting. They are not full of blood. They’re in shock, muscular shock. They are not unconscious, but you would say ‘obtunded’, dull, quiet, very tired.”...


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Posted by Tom Wilson Grade level: M.D./PhD, Pathology, Div. of Molecular Oncology, Washington University Medical School
Question 1: Ebola does NOT cause the body to liquefy! I wish I knew
where this description of the disease comes from. Ebola does cause a
large degree of tissue destruction in many parts of the body. We call
this tissue destruction "inflammation". But it is fundamentally no
different than the kind of destruction that occurs in, say, the common
cold. This is exactly how your body fights the infection. Unfortunately,
the inflammation can sometimes hurt you as much as it helps fight the
infection. Part of inflammation is that tissues become leaky to fluid
(why your nose runs), and this is compounded in Ebola infection since the
virus is infecting (and killing) the cells of the blood vessels (see below),
and so there is an even greater leakiness that results in frank bleeding.
This results in the very powerful image of an infected person, since they
have a bloody drainage at the eyes, nose, mouth, etc., and leads to the name
for this disease, which is "hemorrhagic (i.e. bleeding) fever". But this
idea that the internal organs turn to liquid is absurd. They are merely
having the same kind of inflammation occurring, which does cause fluid
accumulation and severe tissue destruction, but again, it is nothing as
fanciful what you have been led to believe.

As for the clotting, part of the bodies normal response to a damaged
blood vessel is to form a clot there, to stop the bleeding. A clot is a
solidification of the the liquid components of blood, and is thus a
fundamentally different process from the inflammation that is causing the
fluid leakiness.

Question 2: Ebola virus does NOT infect every cell in the body! Again,
I wish I knew where this idea came from. Ebola infects almost exclusively
the cells that line the insides of your blood vessels - we call them
"endothelial cells". Since all parts of your body have blood vessels,
of course, all *parts* of the body (skin, organs, brain, etc.) can get
infected. This is certainly part of why Ebola infection is so severe -
by infecting only one cell type, the whole body can be damaged. It is
also part of why Ebola can spread about the body so quickly - as soon
as virus gets released from a dying cell, it finds itself in the bloodstream
where it can now be pumped all over the body very fast.

As far as Ebola being a filovirus - it is called this simply because
it shares certain features with some related viruses - the details are
not important. But like all viruses, what Ebola has to do is to get
into the body, bind to the surface of the cell it infects, get into the
cell, make more of the virus, and then get back out of the cell to start
the cycle over again (which for most viruses kills the cell). This
process is certainly fascinating, but Ebola is not doing anything
fundamentally different than any other virus.

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Going from serious but stable and now to critical.... PearliePoo2 Oct 2014 #1
Mrs O Leary's cow 1dogleft Oct 2014 #2
As long as he is not Typhoid Mary csziggy Oct 2014 #34
who wins with more Ebola? Republicans?, Democrats?, somebody else? quadrature Oct 2014 #3
You could blame the Republicans for the budget cuts katmondoo Oct 2014 #6
how do they benefit now? nt quadrature Oct 2014 #8
Fear, Uncertainty & Doubt. Authoritarianism always wins once FUD is instilled in the populace. Demit Oct 2014 #20
then why bring in more Ebola? ... nt quadrature Oct 2014 #22
I have no idea why you think it is deliberate. Demit Oct 2014 #25
I have been calling for a travel ban, for weeks now quadrature Oct 2014 #28
He's usually referred to as President Obama around here Turborama Oct 2014 #29
Only ignorant fascists want travel bans. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #35
don't like to acknowledge that he is heaven05 Oct 2014 #48
Only RWNJs like Gohmert are using it. Well, and race baiting Fox. I say to hell with them both. freshwest Oct 2014 #66
Not to mention the lack of an approval for a surgeon general nomination. Chemisse Oct 2014 #23
you could blame Medicare for not reimbursing 1dogleft Oct 2014 #26
But then you'd have to go back to the source, the Sequester, as I see on my papers. freshwest Oct 2014 #31
repukes don't even support Medicare Skittles Oct 2014 #33
actually I think it's the hospitals who have done that. redruddyred Oct 2014 #41
Whomever is perceived as letting it continue to come here loses seveneyes Oct 2014 #16
If there are no pharmaceuticals, then what is the treatment? mahannah Oct 2014 #4
General supportive measures, and pain control. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #7
Basically keep the body as strong as possible so it can fight off the infection. Salviati Oct 2014 #11
Essentially, yes. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #18
Blood transfusions and fluids. Lots and lots of fluids NickB79 Oct 2014 #17
Exactly. ColesCountyDem Oct 2014 #19
Has that been established? (50% survival with optimal medical care) Chemisse Oct 2014 #24
what happened to the heaven05 Oct 2014 #49
Supportive care. I'm sure those big words don't mean much to you. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #36
or putting an embargo on non-essential flights in the first place. redruddyred Oct 2014 #43
Seriously, how DARE MrDuncan fly to get married to his loved one? uppityperson Oct 2014 #61
I'm thinking there is a learning curve in the treatment of Ebola in the first world. There has to... marble falls Oct 2014 #5
By sending this man home instead of admitting him TM99 Oct 2014 #9
the white people were Americans 1dogleft Oct 2014 #27
so....the heaven05 Oct 2014 #52
he's in the hospital 1dogleft Oct 2014 #57
geez heaven05 Oct 2014 #62
only about you 1dogleft Oct 2014 #63
Don't bring race into this. 840high Oct 2014 #30
I dunno, being female and all redruddyred Oct 2014 #44
My manly doctor would be 840high Oct 2014 #51
Are you saying that even sublte racist TM99 Oct 2014 #59
it seems to be so very difficult to find one who is willing to do that. redruddyred Oct 2014 #64
I'd recommend finding one or more female doctors. calimary Oct 2014 #58
why would a guy want to become a gynecologist in the first place? redruddyred Oct 2014 #65
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I know I couldn't help but think it was a possibility that the precious medicine valerief Oct 2014 #53
There was only enough zMAPP for 6 or 7 people. Not enough kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #37
Science denier? Hardly. TM99 Oct 2014 #54
When the Americans were flown in to hospitals here, it was known they eilen Oct 2014 #55
Actually and factually, TM99 Oct 2014 #60
To the hospital he was random. eilen Oct 2014 #67
There is NO treatment for Ebola...1st or 3rd world. Moostache Oct 2014 #10
^this CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #12
ARGH! Your organs do not "liquify" uppityperson Oct 2014 #13
What about the other people who flew on the flight with someone from Liberia and were possibly uppityperson Oct 2014 #14
you're only infectious once you start showing symptoms redruddyred Oct 2014 #45
Doesn't appear to be true anymore Shivering Jemmy Oct 2014 #15
Make that 4 week medical quarantine . . . JDPriestly Oct 2014 #21
21 days is sufficient quarantine for Ebola. Per CDC and WHO. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #39
I would add an extra week to be safe. Why not? JDPriestly Oct 2014 #42
clearly our own government knows better than the world's best epidemiologists. redruddyred Oct 2014 #46
Make it three weeks customerserviceguy Oct 2014 #32
Jesus wept. If you're going to go that route, absolutely nothing kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #38
hospitals in texas going bankrupt because perry turned down medicare money jonjensen Oct 2014 #40
man went a couple days without treatment, I hope he makes it. Are they using the new medicine? Sunlei Oct 2014 #47
If he lives madville Oct 2014 #56
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