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31. You'll have to ask Pres. Clinton that question.

Sun Oct 5, 2014, 11:10 PM

Oct 2014

But, to be fair, the mission called for dropping the Rangers into the operation area and the Blackhawk is ideally suited for that whereas the Longbow isn't.

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U.S. Now Using Apache Helicopters to Attack ISIS in Iraq [View all] Baclava Oct 2014 OP

Yeah, the fixed wing aircraft are basically invulnerable to anything ISIS is likely to have Ex Lurker Oct 2014 #1

True they are vulnerable to small arms fire however in this case it might not even have been a risk cstanleytech Oct 2014 #6

Usually 30mm gunfire and Hellfire missiles....they can see their targets Baclava Oct 2014 #11

The question isnt what they used in Afghanistan but rather what did they use to accomplish this one cstanleytech Oct 2014 #17

Okay, I watched that and then found this on the same page: freshwest Oct 2014 #23

I was in Iraq (Baghdad) AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #39

Not to mention I believe the entire thing took place at 1:30am.. EX500rider Oct 2014 #71

Nope caraher Oct 2014 #84

The money shot AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #41

about 13.25-13.32 "movement in the van, looks like a kid" Sunlei Oct 2014 #49

I believe this is the airstrike that killed a couple of reporters Islandurp Oct 2014 #77

Who were travelling AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #82

Couldn't they be downed by an RPG? Or whatever else they salvaged from the Iraqis? freshwest Oct 2014 #14

Oh man, GGJohn Oct 2014 #26

He didn't talk about it much, because of what he was literally *doing* you know? freshwest Oct 2014 #33

I'm very sorry to hear of his health problems GGJohn Oct 2014 #34

You bring tears to my eyes. I'll tell him. It was easier for us at home to decide what was wrong. freshwest Oct 2014 #35

Also tell him, GGJohn Oct 2014 #36

I just called him and told him all you said. He was grateful to be remembered by other veterans. freshwest Oct 2014 #68

The flares would be to draw off any heat seeking SAM's or AAM's fired at the aircraft. GGJohn Oct 2014 #69

Oh, wow. Thanks for explaining. I certainly don't know about this stuff, although my brother is... freshwest Oct 2014 #74

Stay safe, guys. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #2

+1 Kaleva Oct 2014 #3

Aw, geeze. How long until one of those gets shot down? scarletwoman Oct 2014 #4

They are going to do what they need to prevent the takeover of Bagdad still_one Oct 2014 #5

Right. It will be boots on the ground next. nt scarletwoman Oct 2014 #7

If the air support solely fails I suspect you might be right which is why imo we all should be cstanleytech Oct 2014 #18

In my strictly personal opinion, from the moment the decision was made to start an air war scarletwoman Oct 2014 #22

No, from the moment Bush decided cstanleytech Oct 2014 #25

Well, yeah - we can go back and back. Like, to the breakup of the Ottoman Empire. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #27

I can't decide if a good idea or not .. Lenomsky Oct 2014 #32

It serves a potential purpose which is to try and slow the spread of a group cstanleytech Oct 2014 #45

Which won't happen .. Lenomsky Oct 2014 #89

Yup. amandabeech Oct 2014 #16

See: Vietnam. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #19

Oh, I remember that well. It didn't work out. amandabeech Oct 2014 #20

I imagine our people in the Green Zone have their evacuation plans well in hand. nt scarletwoman Oct 2014 #21

I certainly hope so. amandabeech Oct 2014 #24

That was exactly my thought. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #8

Yup. This ain't our first rodeo... scarletwoman Oct 2014 #9

Yep, the camels nose is under the tent already. Hope I'm wrong Exultant Democracy Oct 2014 #12

I'd be happy to be wrong, too. scarletwoman Oct 2014 #13

Those Apache Longbow's? GGJohn Oct 2014 #28

Wait, I think I've seen this movie. Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #10

Whole different chopper. GGJohn Oct 2014 #29

So, I guess, everything will be just fine then. Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #30

You'll have to ask Pres. Clinton that question. GGJohn Oct 2014 #31

Stupid question. Could the names of these be less dramatic and aggressive? freshwest Oct 2014 #37

For reasons unknown to me, GGJohn Oct 2014 #38

Thanks for the info, and all you've said on the thread. freshwest Oct 2014 #42

Don't forget those two lesser-known tribes-- Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #52

I believe that those were before the military decided to name their helos after Indian tribes. GGJohn Oct 2014 #53

I do with Hueys & Shithooks. Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #56

You're right, the Jolly's were Marine helos, and I always thought they were ugly as hell. GGJohn Oct 2014 #59

Yes indeed. Nothing jolie about a Jolly (if you don't mind a bilingual pun). Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #62

The Huey's official name was the Iroquois hack89 Oct 2014 #61

Having flown quite a few missions in Huey slicks (!st Cav), Jackpine Radical Oct 2014 #63

My Dad did two tours in VN with the 1st Cav hack89 Oct 2014 #64

Sheesh! BobbyBoring Oct 2014 #60

Apaches in Mogadishu bpj62 Oct 2014 #66

+1000. GGJohn Oct 2014 #70

While he's at it, he can ask President G.W. Bush tabasco Oct 2014 #79

Xipe Totec Diclotican Oct 2014 #47

Different job... EX500rider Oct 2014 #73

They used Cobra attack helicopters in Mogadishu Downtown Hound Oct 2014 #75

Those helos that straffed the rooftop were not Cobras, GGJohn Oct 2014 #83

Apache helicopters are not used for transporting troops tabasco Oct 2014 #78

No, it doesn't, but thanks anyway. Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #80

Your post: tabasco Oct 2014 #81

Apaches can't carry anything but bullets and missiles jmowreader Oct 2014 #85

More like this, I think: Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #50

ISIS is evil cosmicone Oct 2014 #15

And kill the tens of thousands of Sunni civilians AnalystInParadise Oct 2014 #40

Disgusting. Unacceptable. cali Oct 2014 #43

That kind of attitude Feral Child Oct 2014 #58

Since Somalia and Vietnam have both been mentioned in this thread Downtown Hound Oct 2014 #76

Makes one wonder why we are waging war on Syria/Assad ozone_man Oct 2014 #90

We are now at the end of the begining OakCliffDem Oct 2014 #44

It certainly seems the "blowing up empty buildings from 30,000 ft" has run it's course Baclava Oct 2014 #46

One of the CNN military analysts said that the A-10s are going. amandabeech Oct 2014 #54

Remember the history texts of them olde timey days when they had those '100 year' wars? Baclava Oct 2014 #86

Just a matter of time until American servicemen are in the videos. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #48

maybe servicewomen too, female Apache pilots Baclava Oct 2014 #51

Yes, when I say servicemen I mean men AND woMEN. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #55

of course you do....I just a had cool video I wanted to show Baclava Oct 2014 #87

I wish they didn't block Youtube at work! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #88

There seems to be very little information out there about what is going on near Baghdad. amandabeech Oct 2014 #57

Because the media is being excluded, perhaps? Excellent point about physical safety of camera crews. freshwest Oct 2014 #65

It had occurred to me that the media had been asked to downplay whatever was going on in Baghdad. amandabeech Oct 2014 #67

The difference between now and then, is interconnectedness. freshwest Oct 2014 #72