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onenote

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46. I suspect the conservatives may be playing a waiting game
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 12:24 PM
Oct 2014

It takes the votes of four justices for the court to agree to hear a case. There is every reason to believe that four of the justices do not support marriage equality. So why didn't they vote to take the cases? Because they thought they might lose. And why didn't four of the five who support marriage equality vote to take the cases? That's a harder question, but the bottom line is that by not taking theses cases, which all found in favor of marriage equality, those decisions are still standing. It could be that both factions of the court are waiting for there to be conflicting appellate court rulings, which is the typical standard for when the court takes cases.

One of the risks is that it could be a while before a case comes up from one of the circuits holding in favor of same sex marriage bans. If one of the five that are likely to vote to strike down such a ban were to leave the court, we could end up with a situation in which the court has a 4-4 split (with Senate repubs filibustering the naming of a ninth justice). If the court divides evenly on a case, the result below is left standing.

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wow! unblock Oct 2014 #1
Happy for the gay people but Marthe48 Oct 2014 #2
When one of the five dies in office bigdarryl Oct 2014 #3
Democratic President, if I may gently suggest. calimary Oct 2014 #34
It needs to be Tony Fishscales. He's the worst. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #36
looks to me like they are ducking the issue rurallib Oct 2014 #4
It means less than four justices see merit in the appeals. House of Roberts Oct 2014 #7
It more than likely means the Justices do not want to nationalize the issue. former9thward Oct 2014 #8
Were these not state laws the District courts struck down? House of Roberts Oct 2014 #15
No, I believe they want to keep their hands off the issue. former9thward Oct 2014 #17
It is not the states working through these issues Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #19
I know that. former9thward Oct 2014 #23
Their rejection of the cases Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #25
All the cases have gone the marriage equality way... TDale313 Oct 2014 #13
Agreed. Ms. Toad Oct 2014 #21
Ding ding ding! Gelliebeans Oct 2014 #55
Thanks to all for their responses - I tend to look at the right side rurallib Oct 2014 #18
There is no legal conflict for them to resolve right now hack89 Oct 2014 #24
I think a court in Tennessee ruled otherwise. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #27
LGBT people aren't out of the woods yet Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #37
I'm having the same type of feeling davidpdx Oct 2014 #67
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! shenmue Oct 2014 #5
:-) :-) :-) :-) MuseRider Oct 2014 #6
That's nice for the people that live in those states dbackjon Oct 2014 #9
So 30 States now allow same sex marriage while 29 States permit discrimination against LGBT people Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #10
So that means democrats have to get there ass out and vote the homophobics out bigdarryl Oct 2014 #12
Good News Hawaii Hiker Oct 2014 #11
So, for all practical purposes this means one of the five men... malthaussen Oct 2014 #14
It makes me wonder how the vote on whether to hear the case went davidpdx Oct 2014 #66
Once again, that margin of victory in Virginia was 907 votes. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2014 #16
You can't stop the bend... yallerdawg Oct 2014 #20
Adding a link, or some links, mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2014 #22
Did Scalia, Scalito, and Thomas all sleep in? yurbud Oct 2014 #26
Anti gay laws don't help business, where as knocking down anti-discrimination laws I housing will. FlatStanley Oct 2014 #28
It's not full Equality yet but... SoapBox Oct 2014 #29
How the "other side" will view this... Bryce Butler Oct 2014 #30
You can't explain that. Ampersand Unicode Oct 2014 #38
I'm happy for people in those 11 states. kiva Oct 2014 #31
Yes, 39 other states may still block SSM. Not cheering yet. More states rights from the RW USSC. freshwest Oct 2014 #44
How could 39 states still block it, given the Federal Court decisions? pnwmom Oct 2014 #48
I believe it goes district by district. The SCOTUS has ruled in I think two districts. And IMO in rhett o rick Oct 2014 #49
By state laws not yet overturned by federal courts. It may be 39 as poster I replied to indicated. freshwest Oct 2014 #52
Exactly, that is how I see it also. It needs to be national, not state by state. uppityperson Oct 2014 #45
DEVELOPING: Same-Sex Marriage ‘Imminent’ in Virginia mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2014 #32
Cowardly advocation of inequality. Feral Child Oct 2014 #33
And a free gift to the GOP... Orsino Oct 2014 #35
Same-Sex Marriage Is Now Legal in the Majority of U.S. States rocktivity Oct 2014 #39
How many districts does that include? nm rhett o rick Oct 2014 #50
The stay has just been lifted in Utah LadyHawkAZ Oct 2014 #40
Gay marriage in Utah, of all places. SpankMe Oct 2014 #41
I can hear the screaming now.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #42
Congratulations to all the happy couples Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #43
I suspect the conservatives may be playing a waiting game onenote Oct 2014 #46
The GOP will use this to fire up the base for the midterm elections. QED Oct 2014 #47
No, they won't brooklynite Oct 2014 #53
Low information voters won't see the nuance. QED Oct 2014 #56
You're delusional if you don't think this will be an issue in NC (Hagan v. Tillis). WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2014 #57
...who going to do what? brooklynite Oct 2014 #58
Surely you're paying attention to the Senator Kay Hagan v. Thom Tillis race in NC? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2014 #59
Tillis can promise to repeal ACA...what can he do about a precedent setting Supreme Court decision? brooklynite Oct 2014 #61
It doesn't matter what he can actually deliver... WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2014 #69
Republicans really want the gay vote. nt valerief Oct 2014 #51
I wish that they would have taken the case and then legalized gay marriage nation-wide totodeinhere Oct 2014 #54
Excellent gopiscrap Oct 2014 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author tea and oranges Oct 2014 #62
Congratulations! Cha Oct 2014 #63
The only thing they agree on tavernier Oct 2014 #64
The magic number is 30. And that's a majority! Future cases . . . dismissed!!! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #65
this glimmer of justice barbtries Oct 2014 #68
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