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TorchTheWitch

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25. so half that got ZMapp were presumably white and half were black
Mon Oct 6, 2014, 04:52 PM
Oct 2014

Tell me again how this is racist especially when Mapp did all this for free? And Dr. Bradley and the woman missionary got their ZMapp while they were still in Liberia, so that means that five of the seven went there, and that's according to your own link.

I also distinctly recall that there was only one dose of ZMapp available for Dr. Bradley and the white woman missionary in Liberia and that Dr. Bradley insisted that she be the one to get it. Somehow another dose that was sent to Liberia ended up going to Bradley and his giving up the one offered to him might have been why he got it.

What we know is that most if not all of the ZMapp went to aid workers most of whom are white, and that was a choice made by Liberian authorities not because of race - Liberians are black for heaven's sake - but because the aid workers were so vital to keep alive so they could continue to help the scads of afflicted when they already had so woefully few there helping and who were also becoming afflicted themselves and dying. These white people volunteered to go to the outbreak areas which happen to be countries of black people and help them running the risk of infection and death themselves. Yet there you are not knowing anything about how many doses of ZMapp were made, where they went or who got them other than two white people and automatically just assume it's all about race. Now that you know better are you willing to admit that race had nothing to do with it and was a ridiculous ignorant assumption?

With only a handful of ZMapp doses made and donated for free to the afflicted in outbreak areas of course there's going to be hard choices as to who gets them, and it's just stupid to imagine that race has anything to do with it. Mapp only decided which black populated country they would go to and chose the one that had the most immediate and deadly problems. And maybe due to legal reasons there was only the choice of giving them to aid workers because of informed risk decisions by the people taking those doses. We also know that those people that got them had to be the most likely candidates for the ZMapp to be able to do any good. If someone is too far gone to likely get any benefit from ZMapp then they likely wouldn't get any.

The disease is a crap shoot in who survives and who doesn't as well. An old codger may survive while a hale and healthy 20-something may not. Some may end up rallying back when at death's door while some doing rather well may suddenly succumb. There's no knowing. There was just recently a story of one patient that was so far gone it was thought he was dead and when carrying him off in a body bag suddenly sat up having taken a turn for the better.

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