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Texas health care worker tests positive for Ebola [View all] cali Oct 2014 OP

None from Emory or Nebraska so far, right? greymattermom Oct 2014 #1

Yet people keep coming in from the infected region. Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #6

I hate to agree with you BUT the reason they can slip by is because they can be exposed and go for jwirr Oct 2014 #19

None of the family who cared for and lived with him for days in infected quarters had gotten it yet. uppityperson Oct 2014 #40

The problem is that they don't know FOR SURE whether there was a breach in protocol pnwmom Oct 2014 #49

Please be patient while they figure out how this woman got infected as first reports are often inacc uppityperson Oct 2014 #50

What was impatient about my post? The problem with their initial statements pnwmom Oct 2014 #59

true CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #44

I hear you. roamer65 Oct 2014 #67

Emory and Nebraska are 2 of the 4 hospitals especially designed to treat highly infectious LisaL Oct 2014 #20

Emory Healthcare workers who provided care Jawja Oct 2014 #33

How does this even happen? Chemisse Oct 2014 #2

Exactly what I was wondering. Turborama Oct 2014 #8

Not yet, no. Two weeks, not three for the EMT/admitting staff Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #10

Sunday release from quarantine seems premature krkaufman Oct 2014 #117

It's only been about 15 days notadmblnd Oct 2014 #12

This is probably someone who took care of him the first time he came to the hospital? jwirr Oct 2014 #22

Nope.... BooScout Oct 2014 #87

Yes, I saw that in DU just a little while ago. There seems to be something we are not doing. I just jwirr Oct 2014 #90

On Face the Nation just now, the guy said it only could have happened if protocol was broken Chemisse Oct 2014 #26

"kidney dialysis and respiratory intubation, posed higher risks for transmission of Ebola" dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #35

Or if the protocol is insufficient. They don't want to admit that, but the protocol pnwmom Oct 2014 #52

In BSL-4 labs that do ebola research, the scientists are in impermeable kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #74

Agreed. I think they don't want to admit the normal PPEs are not enough. It would cost too much magical thyme Oct 2014 #100

I think the space suits are probably the best way to ensure that human error isn't such a problem. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #101

Agreed again. magical thyme Oct 2014 #103

If the dollars simply aren't there, maybe the nurses shouldn't be either. Chemisse Oct 2014 #122

BSL-4 research lab space suits simply aren't needed for these patients. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #123

In fact, that IS indeed the only way it could have happened. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #112

I understand Duncan had a temp of 103 when he was first admitted. Baitball Blogger Oct 2014 #28

Sheer dumb luck? Immunity from prior exposure in the fiance's case? kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #75

Duncan's family may be symptomatic JimDandy Oct 2014 #77

Release from quarantine? krkaufman Oct 2014 #116

How long was he sitting in a crowded ER waiting room before being seen? hedgehog Oct 2014 #98

This is in the article, it will be interesting to see what they come up with. uppityperson Oct 2014 #41

How do they know that the protocol they SHOULD be following isn't the one pnwmom Oct 2014 #53

that has bothered me from the beginning.they assure us that ordinary hospital PPEs are enough magical thyme Oct 2014 #108

I think it is what they recommend in Africa, so they're trying to say it is enough here, too. pnwmom Oct 2014 #110

because they aren't available and we aren't trained in them. magical thyme Oct 2014 #111

The Dallas workers didn't get the same protection as the Emory and Nebraska workers. pnwmom Oct 2014 #51

Removing contaminated PPE is supposedly the most dangerous time. kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #70

Actually, no.. cannabis_flower Oct 2014 #73

Duncan wasn't in a special unit; he was in an ICU ward all to himself magical thyme Oct 2014 #96

20 days ... and 15 days krkaufman Oct 2014 #118

could another city host NFL-Dallas home games? ...nt quadrature Oct 2014 #3

In florida, we have a strain of MRSA DonCoquixote Oct 2014 #4

Thank you for bringing this up - hedgehog Oct 2014 #99

A key question I think is aceofblades Oct 2014 #5

agreed OKNancy Oct 2014 #9

The article says she was exposed during his second visit. n/t JimDandy Oct 2014 #31

Welcome to DU, aceofblades! calimary Oct 2014 #88

(it's been 21 days, hasn't it?) Not quite; 10/12/14 is Day 19. Duncan timeline: WinkyDink Oct 2014 #7

It's three weeks from last exposure. Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #11

The timeline shows that Duncan's symptoms started on 10/24/14/ WinkyDink Oct 2014 #15

Last exposure outside the hospital was 9/28. It is now two weeks later Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #18

Quarantine release on 19th seems premature krkaufman Oct 2014 #120

I don't know what they will be doing Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #121

Can I have next week's lottery numbers please. JTFrog Oct 2014 #34

For any particular person, the 21 day period would start after THAT person's pnwmom Oct 2014 #54

Correct. 21 days after the last exposure. You wrote it well. uppityperson Oct 2014 #64

It's not 3 weeks. It's only 2 weeks. LisaL Oct 2014 #21

The incubation period is three weeks - it's only been two Yo_Mama Oct 2014 #38

Epidemiology FAIL. The longest documented incubation period for kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #76

42 days? krkaufman Oct 2014 #119

Quarantine Texas! fbc Oct 2014 #13

I would be surprised if this is the last contact to come down with it. Vinca Oct 2014 #14

Had not thought of the hospital costs, they should be waived for any potential ebola case. peacebird Oct 2014 #16

When I got exposed to rabies and went down to County-USC for PEP, kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #79

That's because they rejected Medicaid expansion. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #55

That's the one thing that worries me. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #113

That's so sad.... paleotn Oct 2014 #17

Well stated. misterhighwasted Oct 2014 #23

I don't understand why we can't restrict people from coming here from those countries either. Chemisse Oct 2014 #29

Lol. "...shut that whole thing down." Rozlee Oct 2014 #106

That's actually where I got that phrase - lol. Chemisse Oct 2014 #107

how do you cordon off those countries? Build impenetrable fences all the way around? uppityperson Oct 2014 #42

We require passports and sometime VISA's when people go through customs. pnwmom Oct 2014 #56

People are crossing the borders there, moving the disease around to other African countries uppityperson Oct 2014 #57

We can't control Africa, but we can limit people coming from Liberia (or another heavily impacted pnwmom Oct 2014 #62

Ah, so unlike paleotn who wants to cordon off those countries and stop the epidemic, you want only uppityperson Oct 2014 #63

Can you read? pnwmom Oct 2014 #68

There are no direct flights to/from Liberia. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #66

So? It is easy enough to see where someone's flights originated. They knew that Duncan pnwmom Oct 2014 #69

And if they buy two tickets, rather than a connecting flight? Thor_MN Oct 2014 #71

His passport and visas would tell the story. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #80

No. But telling people with Liberian, Guinean, or Sierra Leone passports kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #82

So does your graduate work tell you that only people who are citizens of those countries Thor_MN Oct 2014 #85

The vast majority of victims of Ebola are in fact the citizens of Liberia, kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #86

Closing borders will triger that exodus. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #89

Its a combination of CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #47

But...but...that might inconvenience the Oil and Gas bigwigs!!! All of West Africa's economy will be Stardust Oct 2014 #58

I agree with you except for the medical workers who get ebola and come home kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #81

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Here we go. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #24

4 BSL hospitals in the US greymattermom Oct 2014 #25

Given that that blog also suggests that Ebola patients are going to be rounded hedgehog Oct 2014 #97

The bottom line greymattermom Oct 2014 #27

I've been appalled at Frieden's claims that ANY US hospital can safely kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #83

unfortunately drray23 Oct 2014 #30

I think there must be something they really don't know about ebola... Sancho Oct 2014 #32

And the head of the CDC is almost immediately blaming the protocol dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #37

The nurse in Spain thinks she touched her face with a glove Quixote1818 Oct 2014 #92

No system is foolproof newblewtoo Oct 2014 #36

CDC protocol for removing contact isolation eilen Oct 2014 #39

Except we are being told it is just like HIV Drayden Oct 2014 #46

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not only do gloves tear, I've had gram stain permeate them on at least 2 occasions magical thyme Oct 2014 #109

not good shanti Oct 2014 #43

The majority of health care workers are not trained to the level required pediatricmedic Oct 2014 #45

Why don't they use ultraviolet light dixiegrrrrl Oct 2014 #48

I think they should wipe down the exterior of their PPE with kestrel91316 Oct 2014 #84

I agree. You can't be too safe. Quixote1818 Oct 2014 #93

"admitted she probably"-- probably under some duress, I would think. pnwmom Oct 2014 #61

The Spanish woman was not a nurse but a volunteer with minimal training and poor iso gear uppityperson Oct 2014 #65

The one in TX is apparently a professional nurse. LisaL Oct 2014 #94

Where are the DUers who said this couldn't happen here? crim son Oct 2014 #60

I think now is the time to designate centers and trained staff to handle these cases. AngryOldDem Oct 2014 #72

Good idea. Not every little community hospital is prepared to handle emergencies like this. n/t pnwmom Oct 2014 #91

I agree with you however....but is transporting contagious people to the special snappyturtle Oct 2014 #102

It's already happening. The MA (possible) patient turned up at an urgent care center pnwmom Oct 2014 #104

Thank you. nt snappyturtle Oct 2014 #114

the CDC has confirmed the positive magical thyme Oct 2014 #105

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