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9. I don't think that the Pope has the authority to change any

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 11:50 AM

Oct 2014

Church doctrine. He can't dictate this kind of change all on his own.
I believe the only way to change any Church doctrine is to have the
vast majority of the Church hierarchy with him. May be this is what
he is trying to do -- and if so, it will take time. There are so many
rules, regulations and traditions that must be followed.

I imagine you think that the Pope is practically all powerful, as far as
the Church is concerned. Well, he isn't, not by a long shot.

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I don't think that the Pope has the authority to change any Cal33 Oct 2014 #9

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Oh, please skepticscott Oct 2014 #44

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You cannot be serious theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #50

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He cannot do that. Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #57

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Epic fail�.do you realize how silly you look? skepticscott Oct 2014 #68

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No, you didn't...now you're reduced to making shit up. Pathetic. skepticscott Oct 2014 #71

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Proud that the church openly discriminates against women and LGBTs? theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #34

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So rude! No sarcasm at all. yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #48

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I agree with you about how real leaders should lead Ash_F Oct 2014 #55

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