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Orsino

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23. It's a shame that millions will live alienated from their church of choice...

Mon Oct 13, 2014, 01:43 PM

Oct 2014

...while the hierarchy tries to come up with a face-saving way to flip-flop.

I would hope that church leaders feel a touch of left-outness, for just a taste of what they've done to others for centuries.

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Vatican Proposes Dramatic Shift In Attitude Towards Gays, Same Sex Couples [View all] kpete Oct 2014 OP

If they're serious, this is good news... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #1

It took them until 1992 iandhr Oct 2014 #7

Yep. Volaris Oct 2014 #36

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^ calimary Oct 2014 #74

They never questioned Galileo's findings (they already knew from Copernicus) Recursion Oct 2014 #73

Close the gate HoosierCowboy Oct 2014 #2

So in other words skepticscott Oct 2014 #3

The good news is that church higher-ups are feeling the heat... Orsino Oct 2014 #22

Exactly! theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #33

CORRECT Skittles Oct 2014 #69

This new pope is a very clever marketer. A lot of shadows and mirrors, but no real substance. EEO Oct 2014 #4

They are between a rock and a hard place of their own making. olegramps Oct 2014 #5

It's a shame that millions will live alienated from their church of choice... Orsino Oct 2014 #23

This won't stop the Pope Francis haters from hating. Aristus Oct 2014 #6

Why would this stop people from condemning a bigot like Francis? skepticscott Oct 2014 #8

I don't think that the Pope has the authority to change any Cal33 Oct 2014 #9

Nothing would stop Blank Frank from advocating real change skepticscott Oct 2014 #10

No, he can't. Two thousand years of history and tradition... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #11

So has the 2000 years of rules always included this Pope's 'shadows and mirrors' trick? Tikki Oct 2014 #13

So the only reason he "can't" is because it would be disruptive? skepticscott Oct 2014 #16

He could do a lot of things, but so what? TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #17

The pope and the church he leads adamantly oppose equal rights for homosexuals skepticscott Oct 2014 #21

Catholics don't want homosexuals to have jobs? TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #24

+1 BuddhaGirl Oct 2014 #26

Feel to free to point out my "broad-brushing" in this thread skepticscott Oct 2014 #43

What a shock..you can't skepticscott Oct 2014 #66

You nailed him. okasha Oct 2014 #37

Oh, please skepticscott Oct 2014 #44

Yeesh, that's even worse than your last one skepticscott Oct 2014 #42

Keep it up, it's amusing to see... TreasonousBastard Oct 2014 #47

You cannot be serious theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #50

Keep reaching�you apparently don't even realize how ridiculous this sounds skepticscott Oct 2014 #56

So then the church is still burning sodomites. Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #61

I went through parochial school all the way, even had my first year Cal33 Oct 2014 #14

He cannot do that. Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #57

He lacks the authority to stand up and say what's right? skepticscott Oct 2014 #58

Most skeptics have a idea what they are talking about... Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #67

Epic fail�.do you realize how silly you look? skepticscott Oct 2014 #68

I quoted you word for word... Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #70

No, you didn't...now you're reduced to making shit up. Pathetic. skepticscott Oct 2014 #71

Liar Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #72

No, he said advocating in his first post lancer78 Oct 2014 #75

No, he said there was nothing preventing him calling for a change in Doctrine, specifically Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #79

As expected, you can't point to it, because you made it up skepticscott Oct 2014 #77

Fine. I am going to quote again for you, here it is ... Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #78

Apparently I was too optimistic skepticscott Oct 2014 #80

Best Pope in the history of the catholic church yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #27

Proud that the church openly discriminates against women and LGBTs? theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #34

Too bad I don't pray skepticscott Oct 2014 #45

So rude! No sarcasm at all. yeoman6987 Oct 2014 #48

How do you feel about Obama? Ash_F Oct 2014 #28

Um, no skepticscott Oct 2014 #46

I agree with you about how real leaders should lead Ash_F Oct 2014 #55

Francis thinks I am inherently disordered and should not have rights equal to his own. Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #15

Some folks seem to worry more about criticizing bigots... theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #35

Some folks seem to worry more about denying progress ..... than recognizing it. kwassa Oct 2014 #53

I never mistake a change in semantics for actual change theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #54

I feel sorry for the guy... Xolodno Oct 2014 #30

So they suggest changing only their rhetoric? Bluenorthwest Oct 2014 #12

here is the Vatican 'attitude' from a few days ago johnnypneumatic Oct 2014 #18

That deranged poisonous ad must not have been a big hit Laughing Mirror Oct 2014 #31

There is no "number-two man" in the Vatican. okasha Oct 2014 #38

Burke is the current Prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura johnnypneumatic Oct 2014 #39

No, it doesn't. okasha Oct 2014 #40

Yawn. Not impressed. closeupready Oct 2014 #19

Okay, you crazy-ass "soul rulemakers," now say birth control won't damn you to valerief Oct 2014 #20

Sounds like a "separate but equal" kind of deal to me. displacedtexan Oct 2014 #25

So the Vatican is less afraid of God than ballyhoo Oct 2014 #29

Exciting times for aroman Catholics and i wish them the best. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #32

Great news. goldent Oct 2014 #41

Change comes slowly AnnieBW Oct 2014 #49

A change in verbage is not change theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #51

you know..."those people" SHRED Oct 2014 #52

NO CHANGE IN POLICY = CONTINUED OVERT BIGOTRY Warren Stupidity Oct 2014 #59

baby steps GOLGO 13 Oct 2014 #60

This seems like a step in the right direction. It must be denigrated! Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #62

It already has been. merrily Oct 2014 #76

This man is not amused. yellowcanine Oct 2014 #63

And in another classic backpedal, the Vatican takes it all back skepticscott Oct 2014 #64

Just like clockwork theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #65