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201. The rest of the civilized, peaceful world decides they can't be tolerated, because

Tue Oct 14, 2014, 05:05 PM

Oct 2014

they kill, execute, behead, rape, enslave, torture, amputate, and bury alive the rest of us "infidels"--that is their mission, they state it quite openly. We, and/ or whoever else deems them a threat, exterminate them.
It's carried out with bombs, missiles and bullets. See? Very easy. I support it.

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Islamic State seeks to justify enslaving Yazidi women and girls in Iraq [View all] candelista Oct 2014 OP

These subhumans need killing. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #1

These "subhumans" Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #28

No, they need to be exterminated. And they're subhuman. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #29

Right, and who gets to decide who is, and isn't subhuman? Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #30

Maybe they're just misunderstood, and have a worthy cause that should be TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #40

Who will be first in line to go teach these poor uneducated masses? 7962 Oct 2014 #44

Again, my question is Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #59

Look at it this way: DetlefK Oct 2014 #136

Pretty good analysis right there. nt 7962 Oct 2014 #167

Again, WHO decides WHO is "subhuman" and in need of "extermination"? Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #183

Wow. He's really proposing genocide. DetlefK Oct 2014 #209

The problem is Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #210

No, you are wrong get the red out Oct 2014 #45

So, the answer to sex slavery Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #50

liberals should not be fools - otherwise the daleks win samsingh Oct 2014 #58

So, again I ask Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #71

Destroy until they submit. Thats how you win a war. We've forgotten that. 7962 Oct 2014 #82

Uh, no, that is why we have Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #162

Yes Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #87

OK, one unambiguos vote for genocide Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #163

Destroying an enemy is not genocide. 7962 Oct 2014 #165

The original poster I enaged on this issue Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #168

Nice try Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #188

Again, Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #198

You abuse the term genocide in your posts on this thread NickB79 Oct 2014 #234

Once again Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #237

it may be a yes or no question to you but it's complicated samsingh Oct 2014 #90

I have reviewed history Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #166

the original poster had an emotional response to the killing of innocent people samsingh Oct 2014 #93

I understand that as well, Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #211

we're basically progressives or liberals on this board looking for ways to make the world better samsingh Oct 2014 #228

True, but it is shocking to me Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #229

Unfounded accusation get the red out Oct 2014 #137

This message was self-deleted by its author get the red out Oct 2014 #178

Again, these people have serious problems that need to be addressed Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #47

I am 100% fully comfortable in recommending extermination for this particular TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #53

OK, Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #72

LOL--they're not a race, nationality, a tribe, a religion. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #79

+1,000,000 cosmicone Oct 2014 #102

Ummm, no Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #139

They're a terrorist organization. They come from all over the world to TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #141

I am not defending them and you know it. Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #143

The world has two choices: Ignore them, or kill them. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #151

And Americans have killed Iraqis, Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #155

You can pull up whatever "whataboutisms" you like, or compare me to whomever TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #156

Really? Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #161

Actually, it does work on Al Qaeda. Not permanently, but it does set them back TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #164

Please show me where Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #176

Oh, I finally get it. You are upset with my specific wording. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #186

Still haven't answered the questions Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #193

The rest of the civilized, peaceful world decides they can't be tolerated, because TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #201

By all means Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #202

Plenty of proof. I don't know that anyone else on earth disputes TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #203

It is very simple Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #216

You ARE and have been defending them and it is evident from your posts cosmicone Oct 2014 #152

No, defending them would be saying they shouldn't be punished Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #153

You're defending them from "genocide" treestar Oct 2014 #214

The poster advocated Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #218

ISIS would not be victims of genocide treestar Oct 2014 #219

Again, the definition academically and legally of genocide is VERY specific Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #222

This message was self-deleted by its author Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #213

how do you suppose we should react to the thousands of men and women being killed and raped by isis samsingh Oct 2014 #92

And what country is responsible for illegally Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #142

some good points samsingh Oct 2014 #144

I never said "ignore the massacres" Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #159

They made the decision themselves Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #86

And have we not made the decision ourselves by the way we treated people Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #180

Last time I checked Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #187

Really, based on what evidence are all the people Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #196

cheney, is that you? noiretextatique Oct 2014 #232

5,000 chemical warheads Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #238

LOL Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #85

They think they are educated CanonRay Oct 2014 #104

I prefer killing 840high Oct 2014 #172

They educated themselves treestar Oct 2014 #212

A lot of what you are saying about what is and isn't a war crime Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #220

you are right and people discussing education should personally samsingh Oct 2014 #57

And people who advocate for "extermination" Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #74

I agree with you and Nietzsche on this one: CJCRANE Oct 2014 #81

Correct Kelvin Mace Oct 2014 #185

Too bad we didn't do that to the South AMIRITE? /nt Ash_F Oct 2014 #140

They're not doing themselves any favors. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #2

I suspect that it's to attract degenerates from all over who are into that sort of thing. Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2014 #10

I agree, I think that's a big part of it. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #14

I think you're right PatSeg Oct 2014 #18

Yep, for these nitwits, opportunity presented themselves to be a "man" <---note quotes Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2014 #36

Yes, that is how it appears! PatSeg Oct 2014 #65

i don' think any other major religion would be used for the level of violence we are seeing samsingh Oct 2014 #61

Probably not today so much PatSeg Oct 2014 #68

i'm looking at this century and the last not hundreds of years ago. samsingh Oct 2014 #91

Any religion could be used if you put in hundreds of millions of dollars CJCRANE Oct 2014 #83

the militant islamists are funding the militant islamists samsingh Oct 2014 #150

Christians have been quite violent since Constantine. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #191

seriously, we're talking 1576? samsingh Oct 2014 #204

You only need to go back to the 1940s.... blackspade Oct 2014 #206

It's about respect and honor Yupster Oct 2014 #100

I refuse to be an apologist for these brutal practices cosmicone Oct 2014 #103

I'm with you Yupster Oct 2014 #107

That's not fun to read. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #112

Explaining away barbaric practices as sensible cosmicone Oct 2014 #115

Kill them all Yupster Oct 2014 #125

Your view is to try to deal with what is motivating them. That is a part of a good approach. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #194

You're an apologist for the mass murder of thousands in Egypt, though Scootaloo Oct 2014 #127

how does that explain the Brits and others from Western Nations JI7 Oct 2014 #134

Peer pressure. Because they are outsiders, they feel they must prove themselves by being JDPriestly Oct 2014 #195

Remember: we are not their target audience Bragi Oct 2014 #23

It's a real draw for them Yupster Oct 2014 #99

I will mock anything contrary to the natural rights of man . . . Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #3

Agreed. freshwest Oct 2014 #233

why do they keep reminding me of ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #4

maybe.... Psephos Oct 2014 #21

I wish ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #24

Who cares what they pray? Psephos Oct 2014 #25

Preach! 7962 Oct 2014 #48

well, we disagree then. ChairmanAgnostic Oct 2014 #62

fair enough Psephos Oct 2014 #111

"Call me when the baptists start capturing women as spoils of war, and burying their enemies alive." FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #75

That was the Catholics, not the baptists. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #77

Could you try something a little fresher than six centuries ago? Psephos Oct 2014 #110

The discussion is also about what may happen in the future FiveGoodMen Oct 2014 #154

They're not even 1% and everybody else rejects their crazy bullshit. Throd Oct 2014 #181

A mere 150 years ago Democrats fought to keep slavery. Psephos Oct 2014 #190

The Tea Party already has the pro-slave vote agentS Oct 2014 #226

LOL, Wonder what the year 1407 would have been like if they had the intertubes? snooper2 Oct 2014 #230

The past casts its shadow over the present. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #192

Of all the crazy things said by Pat Robertson, etc. treestar Oct 2014 #215

How convenient Turbineguy Oct 2014 #5

These guys make Tamerlane look like a wimpy progressive. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #6

Capturing school girls in Nigeria, gang rapes in India... TomCADem Oct 2014 #7

Well, the school girls in Nigeria were kidnapped by Boko Haram denem Oct 2014 #39

gang rapes in India are not being done in the name of religion and are samsingh Oct 2014 #63

Religion-based attitudes to women play a big role. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #89

The women are the spoils of war. They are shared as a reward to the men who commit the violence. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #197

I Don't Think Victims Really Care Whether They Are Being Raped... TomCADem Oct 2014 #105

i think this discussion was started in a religious group encouraging rape samsingh Oct 2014 #148

Raises the question: Are these (or any)fundamentalists 'real'? Should I not believe they are real if pampango Oct 2014 #8

They are 'real', it's just not exactly clear where they appeared from CJCRANE Oct 2014 #11

The key is, as you posted, getting the correct information - the facts - and basing policy pampango Oct 2014 #12

This guy has to be the most vile POS on the planet. iandhr Oct 2014 #9

Is anyone surprised? cosmicone Oct 2014 #13

I'm not surprised. ISIS is following the Qu'ran, literally. Dems to Win Oct 2014 #17

exactly samsingh Oct 2014 #64

Gen. Patton called them the 'Barbarian Hordes' in WWII big_dog Oct 2014 #19

Correct. This is nothing new. They've believed this for centuries. 7962 Oct 2014 #51

it is part of the ideology and isis is emulating completely samsingh Oct 2014 #66

These ISIS fucks are crazy. blackspade Oct 2014 #15

Crazy but effective. candelista Oct 2014 #157

A link to a very good article on "Dabiq" Bragi Oct 2014 #16

Gen Jack Keane mentioned on the front website sited in your link...... riversedge Oct 2014 #22

Thanks for that Bragi Oct 2014 #26

Good. I am not riversedge Oct 2014 #33

So who can be trusted to tell the truth or at least ot present an unbiased view. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #34

Answer: usually no-one Bragi Oct 2014 #37

Me too. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #43

ISW is a neocon outfit that sponsors the Kagans, who are pushing for a 25,000-strong TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #41

From the pdf at the link: freshwest Oct 2014 #235

OK. Now these are the facts about Islam that modern Muslims do not acknowledge in my JDPriestly Oct 2014 #20

Muslim invasions in India were extremely heinous cosmicone Oct 2014 #27

It is a matter of being honest about the past. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #31

+1,000,000 n/t cosmicone Oct 2014 #32

"Using warfare, brutality and enslavement to spread religion is unique to Islam" is BS. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #46

I don't hate Islam at all. cosmicone Oct 2014 #49

If you think there is no religious-inspired violence in Hindu or Buddhist societies CJCRANE Oct 2014 #73

Read my post AGAIN please cosmicone Oct 2014 #84

I don't know. Give Ann Coulter $500 million CJCRANE Oct 2014 #88

False equivalence to make Islam sound kind and gentle. cosmicone Oct 2014 #95

I respect all religions. I think they are all equally good and equally bad CJCRANE Oct 2014 #96

I am stating facts. cosmicone Oct 2014 #98

it's sad to see that people still don't understand that all religions are not the same samsingh Oct 2014 #149

I see that too. Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #171

except that they are forceably converting people to islam or killing them samsingh Oct 2014 #205

The seeds of violence in the Muslim religion are in the Koran. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #189

they have not samsingh Oct 2014 #146

Forced Christian conversion, since you don't know about it. kwassa Oct 2014 #109

Oh -- those two examples make ISIS alright? cosmicone Oct 2014 #113

You make up your own facts. kwassa Oct 2014 #120

Yes. After Constantine "the Great." JDPriestly Oct 2014 #199

Your interpretation of warfare and brutality in the spreading of religion... blackspade Oct 2014 #207

Grumpy.... Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #170

Christians only did that after Constantine made Christianity his religion. He was a warrior JDPriestly Oct 2014 #184

Ever heard of the Crusades? Violence against others, against each other, many historical examples. kwassa Oct 2014 #108

Again, you have to delve way deep in history cosmicone Oct 2014 #114

who is trying to justify ISIS? Not me. kwassa Oct 2014 #119

Utah Territory. Murder, kidnappings, massacres, genocide of native peoples. Mid 1800s. LeftyMom Oct 2014 #126

Yes. My point was that Mohammed was violent and conducted wars to convert people to his JDPriestly Oct 2014 #132

And what is the importance of this point? kwassa Oct 2014 #169

He lead violetn troops. He was violent. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #173

ISIS has it's own cherry-picked version of Islam, which is contested by kwassa Oct 2014 #174

Correct. The Old Testament is violent. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #177

Christians still worship the Old Testament. kwassa Oct 2014 #208

There is a lot important in Islam as there is in the Old Testament. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #223

. kwassa Oct 2014 #224

I must apologize for my many typos. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #231

Jesus Fucking Christ it's the year 2014 tabasco Oct 2014 #225

Do you have a point? kwassa Oct 2014 #227

Read the Pentateuch sometime Scootaloo Oct 2014 #128

But the New Testament describes very little violence other than Jesus' death. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #131

The New Testament postpones religious violence to the afterlife. candelista Oct 2014 #158

I wish ISIS would trust that God would avenge the evildoers once the evildoers die. JDPriestly Oct 2014 #200

Shush get the red out Oct 2014 #179

Yazidi girls are being sold for $1000 denem Oct 2014 #35

WTF do you expect ? Rhinodawg Oct 2014 #175

I wish you'd clarify that statement. Concubine is the correct term. ISIS is using a proven strategy. freshwest Oct 2014 #236

Dear ISIS or ISIL or whatever you idiots call yourselves: Brigid Oct 2014 #38

all religions defend the indefensible Skittles Oct 2014 #52

Really? Brigid Oct 2014 #56

varying degrees of idiocy Skittles Oct 2014 #60

Not in my (Methodist) church. Brigid Oct 2014 #69

yeah, high fashion Skittles Oct 2014 #76

I think we're done here. Brigid Oct 2014 #80

LOL Skittles Oct 2014 #133

I think all religion is ridiculous..... but... Adrahil Oct 2014 #217

This isva good example of why some people do not deserve to live. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #42

it's not possible to negotiate or reason with rollin74 Oct 2014 #54

They are not Islamic mwrguy Oct 2014 #55

they follow sharia law samsingh Oct 2014 #67

They say. Comrade Grumpy Oct 2014 #70

read up on sharia law - they are following it to the letter samsingh Oct 2014 #94

They are following their interpretation of it. CJCRANE Oct 2014 #97

It is not interpretation cosmicone Oct 2014 #101

there is no beauty in what sharia law is used to do samsingh Oct 2014 #145

Follow your own advice. Scootaloo Oct 2014 #130

+1 (n/t) Nihil Oct 2014 #138

talking law law in the context of the discussion is moronic samsingh Oct 2014 #147

They follow an extreme interpretation of Islamic law. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #106

Quaran 9:5 candelista Oct 2014 #116

Well it is just one passage in the Koran. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #118

There are also many glorious accounts of Mohammad's military adventures candelista Oct 2014 #121

I have not read the Koran so i can not speak to it but i can tell you that all the Muslims i know hrmjustin Oct 2014 #122

That's why I compared it to the Old Testament. candelista Oct 2014 #123

Oh i see what you mean. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #124

These guys really ARE like a bunch of bikers tearassing into town.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #78

When you need to justify slavery, you lose. sakabatou Oct 2014 #117

Mission accomplished, on IS' part Scootaloo Oct 2014 #129

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #135

There is no place in todays world for barbarian killers, looters & kidnappers Sunlei Oct 2014 #160

No, there is. Throd Oct 2014 #182

Has Julius Streicher been reincarnated, and posting on this thread? closeupready Oct 2014 #221