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In reply to the discussion: Pregnant Iowa woman in labor forced to ground at gunpoint by cops for speeding on way to hospital [View all]Adrahil
(13,340 posts)No... I'm not thick and I understand the use of "shock" language as a part of persuasive rhetoric. I did not look up a wiki article. I am quite the fan of Shakespeare, and am serious fan of Chaucer too, having read most of his works in Middle English. My wife in a PhD professor in English Lit, so I am surrounded by these great writers (though she focuses on Victorian writers). I'm an engineer, personally, but I do know how to crack a book.
This has nothing to do with sanctimonious morality. I asked the poster in quest, rather politely in my estimation, to not use a term I find very offensive. I did not demand it. I did not alert the message. The poster could not know I was offended if I did not tell him/her. I did not insult the poster, or otherwise insist that they meet my "moral tidemark." I MERELY let them know I found that word offensive and asked them not to use it.
Now, I will NOT stop requesting that posters not use terms I find offensive. That is a part of civil discourse. Although I do not agree with the poster's post overall, I do think his post would have been more engaging without such a deliberately dismissive and vulgar term. Clearly, at least some folks agree with me. While you may see that post as "shock language" used in social commentary, I frankly saw a rather clumsy, dominant discourse rant with a disgusting, and unfounded insult. I am willing to tolerate bad ideas.... we're surrounded by them. But I maintain my right to politely request that posters refrain from insults.
Yes, both Shakespeare and Chaucer can resort to crass humor. But your posts seem to indicate that the fact that they do it, on occasion, means that therefore, nothing can be considered vulgar or inappropriate. Perhaps you even think that. Perhaps you don't, but I didn't see any effective argument in there, either way. I didn't really break out the sarcasm until the Shakespeare and Chaucer reference which I just found laughable.
So let's end it here... both of use feeling intellectually superior and secure in the knowledge that we each think we know Chaucer better than the other (that was a joke, btw). But I did learn what the word sweven from Chaucer and I'm trying to reintroduce into everyday usage.