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32. Compared to what Dorian Johnson said, Wilson's account is suspect

Sat Oct 18, 2014, 02:13 PM

Oct 2014

Johnson from the very beginning claimed that Wilson reached out and grabbed Brown by the neck, dragging him in through the window of the SUV. If Wilson was "pinned in his vehicle" it was by his own actions.

Dorian Johnson, Mike Brown Shooting Witness, Meeting With FBI And County Prosecutor
By Treye Green @TreyeGreen t.green@ibtimes.com on August 13 2014 5:54 PM

"It was around 1:40, two o'clock. We were walking down the street, empty street. We were just walking down, minding our business. We're both headed home, and the officer's approaching us, and as he pulled up on the side of us, he didn't say 'freeze,' 'halt,' or nothing like we were committing a crime. He said, 'Get the f--- on the sidewalk!' I told the officer we were not but a minute away from the destination,” Johnson said.

Johnson said the officer then opened his car door, grabbed Brown’s neck and attempted to pull him through the window of the police car. He added that Brown “never once attempted to grab for the officer's weapon."

"The second time he says, 'I'll shoot,' a second later the gun went off and he let go. That's how we were able to run at the same time," Johnson said. He said he ran behind a car while the officer fired at them, shooting Brown in the back.

Johnson continued, "[Brown’s] hands immediately went into the air and he turned around to the officer. My friend started to tell the officer that he was unarmed and that he could stop shooting. Before he could get his second sentence out, the officer fired several more shots into his head and chest area. He fell dramatically into the fatal position. I did not hear once he yell 'freeze,' 'stop' or 'halt.' It was just horrible to watch."
http://www.ibtimes.com/dorian-johnson-mike-brown-shooting-witness-meeting-fbi-county-prosecutor-1657892

I elect to believe Dorian Johnson's account from shortly after the incident to Darren Wilson's long delayed self-serving account.

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Sigh. "Sometimes-violent protests" - most of the violence so far has come KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #1

there are a few shopkeepers who might disagree. Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #91

My, aren't you precious? KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #93

Why the snarkiness? GGJohn Oct 2014 #96

FACT: Police and law enforcement were the cause of most of the violence. (Since we're KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #112

FACT, it wasn't the police or law enforcement that looted and burned those businesses, GGJohn Oct 2014 #113

A cop burned down quick trip? Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #118

I'm willing to believe they struggled in the car. Then Brown ran away and Wilson killed him. Shrike47 Oct 2014 #2

Possible or Brown turned and charged the officer. Not saying I believe Brown did that though because cstanleytech Oct 2014 #4

So why say it if you don't know.... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #53

Just pointing out that none of us can say for sure what happened as cstanleytech Oct 2014 #58

Fair enough...N/T BronxBoy Oct 2014 #59

I don't get where the "he charged him" shit comes from upaloopa Oct 2014 #77

*shrug* I agree it doesnt make sense but thats what the officer is claiming happened. I didnt say I cstanleytech Oct 2014 #81

The officer is a fucking lier. upaloopa Oct 2014 #86

"Why do you ignore eye witnesses? " I dont but I do question it because of this cstanleytech Oct 2014 #90

That talks about misidentifying a person. upaloopa Oct 2014 #94

Its not just about misidentifying a person its about memory in general. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #95

If more than one person says the same thing happened upaloopa Oct 2014 #108

Sure there are plenty of people but they need to determine how much each person saw first cstanleytech Oct 2014 #109

Ferguson has them riverwalker Oct 2014 #105

Brown should be sitting in jail, not buried in the ground. Hoyt Oct 2014 #3

For walking down a fucking street? Sitting in jail? Lochloosa Oct 2014 #10

He likely would be in jail now if he hadn't been killed madville Oct 2014 #23

he didn't steal anything riverwalker Oct 2014 #57

That is not what was reported Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #69

The attorney for the store owner said that they never reported a theft to the police. Chakab Oct 2014 #78

No but a customer allegedly did or atleast cstanleytech Oct 2014 #92

That's fine with me, but he did threaten clerk and apparently did something with Wilson. He didn't Hoyt Oct 2014 #24

Brown was guilty of WWB (Walking While Black). Of course, Brown isn't 'totally innocent'. Of KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #31

Too many other Delphinus Oct 2014 #46

But they were Black... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #50

Plus One Million. GGJohn Oct 2014 #97

really heaven05 Oct 2014 #22

It's easily possible to believe that both Brown and Wilson acted improperly. branford Oct 2014 #25

no one is a saint heaven05 Oct 2014 #26

Acknowledging that Brown MAY have been acting improperly branford Oct 2014 #36

The prosecutor has promised to release to the public all information put before the grand jury, amandabeech Oct 2014 #37

Yeah that 'witness' in Florida soon was heaven05 Oct 2014 #49

You realize that the two witnesses in the Brown case that I mention are both black. amandabeech Oct 2014 #56

reasoned heaven05 Oct 2014 #39

While I can agree with you on that... NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #30

Of course..., BronxBoy Oct 2014 #42

We should all find a friend and try to re-enact this, and see if these claims are even possible. arcane1 Oct 2014 #5

AND, IT WASN'T A CAR, IT WAS AN SUV... Even more unbelievable, SUV is higher... winstars Oct 2014 #17

The cop will say that he called out to Brown and Johnson to stop walking down the middle of the amandabeech Oct 2014 #38

Yes. Because it is a well known fact that black men ALWAY try to get INTO cop cars. bravenak Oct 2014 #76

One wonders where the cops gun was that Brown would have been going for it. KittyWampus Oct 2014 #82

I was wondering the same thing..... bravenak Oct 2014 #87

I'm not saying that I believe it, I'm just saying what I think that the cop will say. n/t amandabeech Oct 2014 #83

The cop is ridiculous. bravenak Oct 2014 #88

Oh what bullshit bluestateguy Oct 2014 #6

Early witnesses do not support this oldandhappy Oct 2014 #7

From what the story says Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #12

so I guess it will fly oldandhappy Oct 2014 #14

Well it's not from the FPD Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #16

the fbi has never found an unfounded shooting questionseverything Oct 2014 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Oct 2014 #99

no, he strangled her, so no unjustified shooting questionseverything Oct 2014 #100

You're right, my bad. GGJohn Oct 2014 #101

i wish you would leave it questionseverything Oct 2014 #102

I'll go ahead and repost it. GGJohn Oct 2014 #104

Do you still believe the "early witnesses" who all agreed the last "victim" was holding a sandwich? PorridgeGun Oct 2014 #44

yes, true oldandhappy Oct 2014 #47

Is there anything in the forensics that precludes earlier accounts of hedgehog Oct 2014 #48

Actually, this scenario matches what the first eye witness indicated ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #80

That's what I was thinking. hedgehog Oct 2014 #85

Sounds suspiciously Zimmerman-like RufusTFirefly Oct 2014 #8

+ 1,000 - We Have A Winner cantbeserious Oct 2014 #51

I suspect he didn't tell his story because he had a lawyer Calista241 Oct 2014 #66

He's had a lot of time to be coached on what to say. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #9

So who coached the FBI lab? NaturalHigh Oct 2014 #29

Doesn't matter what the FBI lab says what happened in the car brush Oct 2014 #35

But he really, really felt threatened. marble falls Oct 2014 #11

Darren Wilson is a big guy wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #13

This message was self-deleted by its author scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #15

So Mike was shot for running FROM the cop and then shot for running TOWARD the cop??? winstars Oct 2014 #18

I'm going to delete this because it's some right wing site scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #19

I see a storm on America's horizon... ReRe Oct 2014 #20

I see a firestorm myself, if they don't indict him. - n/t KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #33

That's bullshit Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #70

Right now all that's being decided is whether he is to be indicted. The Grand Jury is being presided KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #71

I get that Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #72

McCulloch needs to recuse himself immediately to allow Governor Nixon KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #73

I agree with you Iamthetruth Oct 2014 #75

Here's the thing: you talk calmly about "the law" as if it has some legitimacy KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #79

Nixon can appoint a special prosecutor regardless of whether McCulloch withdraws branford Oct 2014 #98

Your understanding runs directly counter to my own. To wit, Nixon cannot KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #106

It is my understanding that the governor can act without McColloch's voluntary recusal. branford Oct 2014 #110

This is where it gets complicated. First, please understand that I am not an attorney so KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #111

I'm now curious about the "state of emergency" provisions of state law. branford Oct 2014 #114

Lying SOS heaven05 Oct 2014 #21

The so called officer is a fucking liar onecaliberal Oct 2014 #27

I can tell you. PorridgeGun Oct 2014 #45

Compared to what Dorian Johnson said, Wilson's account is suspect csziggy Oct 2014 #32

Thanks for posting. I responded to this in a thread over at General Discussion, but KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #34

only fair heaven05 Oct 2014 #40

Plausable or not? likely or not? Agalbraith Oct 2014 #41

Explanation: cop roid rage BuelahWitch Oct 2014 #43

police response to minority heaven05 Oct 2014 #52

see my post 13 above wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #65

+100 JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #84

Lying sack of shit.n/t alarimer Oct 2014 #54

The police officers version of the 'story' doesn't make sense to me. Sunlei Oct 2014 #55

He wasnt off duty. Agalbraith Oct 2014 #120

All those trying to justify Wilson's actions onecaliberal Oct 2014 #60

yep archaic56 Oct 2014 #61

I Agree The Killing Was Not Justified But Brown Did Just 'Rob' A Convinence Store... Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #62

He did not rob the store. onecaliberal Oct 2014 #63

Well Then I Was Misinformed Of The Situation In The Store... Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #64

The problem with posts like yours.... BronxBoy Oct 2014 #67

"Nothing more than animals AND a source of municipal revenue so that KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #74

Your Right In The Sense That My Post Is Focused On Michael Brown, Because He Was The On Killed.... Corey_Baker08 Oct 2014 #117

I hadn't heard this XemaSab Oct 2014 #68

store owner did NOT call police riverwalker Oct 2014 #107

So you don't have a link? XemaSab Oct 2014 #116

He's had two months to construct a narrative and THIS is the best bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #89

You know what's sad? abelenkpe Oct 2014 #103

There's so much sadness, sometimes it's just overwhelming. As a former teacher, I find KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #115

Former police chief says charges unlikely in Michael Brown shooting madville Oct 2014 #119