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Ken Burch

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28. You know perfectly well he won't leave anything in the people's hands

Sun Apr 8, 2012, 02:14 AM

Apr 2012

Not if he's financed by the rich. Nobody in Venezuela's upper classes accepts that that poor have a right to have anything.

And what about the fact that he'll get rid of the community councils. How can you be ok with that?

Reducing democracy to parliamentary elections means permanently rigging the system for the rich. It's only local direct or near-direct democracy that can ever liberate anyone.

Excuse me for not wanting the "aspiration" Armani suit types to go back and steal the country again. Capriles would take the country back to the useless old days. The market cannot be the friend of the poor.

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An Ailing Chavez Prays For Time [View all] hack89 Apr 2012 OP

He should have gone to Brasil in the first place--they are world famous. MADem Apr 2012 #1

Yeah, Cuba just sucks with malignant neoplasms. joshcryer Apr 2012 #14

Spam deleted by ornotna (MIR Team) sdfgrth Apr 2012 #2

Hate to tell Chavez this.... Gore1FL Apr 2012 #3

Cancer does not play favorites. And unexpected cures do happen. nt humblebum Apr 2012 #59

It would be a tragedy for the poor and the workers of Venezuela if Hugo died at this point Ken Burch Apr 2012 #4

Unfortunately for chavizmo even the best polls put all of the PSUV candidates... joshcryer Apr 2012 #5

Capriles is pro-austerity and pro"encourage foreign investment" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #6

Yet Chavez has courted Chinese investment Zorro Apr 2012 #7

Not sure Ken Burch Apr 2012 #9

One source to back up your claim. Just one. joshcryer Apr 2012 #13

Here is a quote from an article about him, including his own quotes, from the "Washington Times" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #20

Because he's loved across Miradana and gets shit done. joshcryer Apr 2012 #24

You know perfectly well he won't leave anything in the people's hands Ken Burch Apr 2012 #28

I'm not convinced he's going to get rid of them. joshcryer Apr 2012 #30

Chavez has been fighting cancer for the last two years or so Ken Burch Apr 2012 #32

I think he's playing an Obama-esque play all sides campaign. joshcryer Apr 2012 #35

That's the truth malaise Apr 2012 #41

That's patently false. Chavizmo is the one paying employees in bonds. joshcryer Apr 2012 #12

He favors "business-friendly economic policies" Ken Burch Apr 2012 #17

No it isn't. It's worked in Miranda. joshcryer Apr 2012 #19

He gave contracts to wealthy building contractors. By you that's progressive? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #21

That is false, the housing contracts went to regular people to fix their houses... joshcryer Apr 2012 #22

That happened under Chavez too. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #23

Big difference between paying a foreign chinese company to build a home... joshcryer Apr 2012 #25

He's the candidate of the wealthy in Venezuela. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #27

Yeah, but they're already bitching about how he's not going to end currency controls... joshcryer Apr 2012 #29

"He's practically left of our Democrats." a2liberal Apr 2012 #31

I hadn't gone there, but...good point. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #33

It means the people we are known to vote for... joshcryer Apr 2012 #34

Which is a meaningless statement as far as Latin American politics go. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #37

It's more of a "who are we to talk" statement. joshcryer Apr 2012 #38

No we don't. cali Apr 2012 #61

Every other electoral democracy has a socialist or social democratic party playing a major Ken Burch Apr 2012 #63

Just because we don't have a choice a2liberal Apr 2012 #64

It's the same for Venezuelans, they think they don't have a choice which is why Chavez... joshcryer Apr 2012 #71

Stop referring to him as "Chavismo" - that's the name of a political ideology. bitchkitty Apr 2012 #65

Uh, he didn't sign it by degree, chavismo passed the new investments. joshcryer Apr 2012 #70

I repeat, bitchkitty Apr 2012 #74

Upping wages b4 elections shd get him martyr status if he croaks. & *love* those ASSAD reforms!1 UTUSN Apr 2012 #8

What's wrong with upping wages? Ken Burch Apr 2012 #10

My silly form of idealism is that leaders or anybody I judge be worth my idealism. n/t UTUSN Apr 2012 #11

Capriles isn't worth anybody's idealism Ken Burch Apr 2012 #16

My feelings abt Huguito regard Huguito only. *You* say CAPRILES & American stoogeism, comparisons. UTUSN Apr 2012 #49

I'm not crazy about some of the people Chavez has aligned himself with Ken Burch Apr 2012 #52

Repeating, last time: My detestation of Huguito does NOT mean support for whomever else UTUSN Apr 2012 #54

Ok...you just don't like Chavez. That's your call. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #55

Not to leave any question unanswered. I call him Huguito the way I call Shrub Shrub. UTUSN Apr 2012 #56

By "don't like", I meant disagree with Ken Burch Apr 2012 #57

"Community" councils ChangoLoa Apr 2012 #75

Not true. You don't have to be on the PSUV to be on those councils Ken Burch Apr 2012 #76

Bullshit. You OBVIOUSLY have to be chavista to receive funding for the councils ChangoLoa Apr 2012 #79

There isn't one doctor in Cuba or Venezuela creeksneakers2 Apr 2012 #15

Cuba's social indicators are equal to most Western countries ronnie624 Apr 2012 #26

Those social indicators are not reliable. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #67

The article says he was to return to Cuba today, Saturday, to continue his treatment. EFerrari Apr 2012 #40

Ta for that note dipsydoodle Apr 2012 #43

Don't forget to pack sunscreen, dipsydoodle! Hope this trip's even better! n/t Judi Lynn Apr 2012 #45

Don't really need it dipsydoodle Apr 2012 #46

Good trip. EFerrari Apr 2012 #47

Just an observation on my part... Archae Apr 2012 #18

I was wondering what the purpose of this article was. Prometheus Bound Apr 2012 #36

W$J = freemarket = big time oil reserve Venezuela = back to foreign private ownership coup lunasun Apr 2012 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #39

Only the sick ones dipsydoodle Apr 2012 #42

This story was out several days ago, and I was glad the group I expected to post it here, Judi Lynn Apr 2012 #44

Yes. There is something rather sick about that headline in the WSJ Kolesar Apr 2012 #50

They're launching a pre-emptive gloat. Ken Burch Apr 2012 #53

Heh, he said as much. joshcryer Apr 2012 #72

They were no doubt occupied with Easter celebrations. bitchkitty Apr 2012 #58

I hope he beats the odds. tru Apr 2012 #48

Don't tell him what really works, it probably is growing in his backyard..... MindMover Apr 2012 #60

And in a couple of months he will claim his prayers have been answered and he is cured. rl6214 Apr 2012 #62

Chavez screwed himself by going to Cuba for help. Daniel537 Apr 2012 #66

Venezuelan speaking here. I don't feel sorry for him. Marksman_91 Apr 2012 #68

Right wing nutcases have been predicting that for years. EFerrari Apr 2012 #69

exactly and if he does die before the election I can see an auto-coup too Bacchus4.0 Apr 2012 #73

I really despise the implication Ken Burch Apr 2012 #77

Are you sure you're talking about Venezuela? ChangoLoa Apr 2012 #78