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branford

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46. That's fine, and you're certainly welcome to advocate any position you wish.

Sun Oct 26, 2014, 06:08 PM

Oct 2014

However, "common sense gun safety laws," however you wish to define such terms, is not really the point of the new PA law.

As I stated earlier, the PA law neither expands or restricts gun rights in the state. It only permits institutional plaintiffs to challenge ordinances, largely because many PA localities appear to routinely violate PA law concerning guns. The towns and cities brought this on themselves.

It's obvious that you support the stricter gun ordinances of certain towns and cities, but they should not be able to violate state law with impunity, regardless of whether it concerns firearms or anything else.

If you believe that stricter gun control measures are warranted in PA, the proper route is to lobby the state legislature for greater restrictions and/or remove the preemption so localities can institute greater restrictions. As has repeatedly happened in Philadelphia, the only effect of localities ignoring state gun laws is numerous pro-gun plaintiffs winning often sizable legal awards at the expense of taxpayers, and without appreciably (or lawfully) restricting firearms.

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PA OKs Measure Allowing NRA to Sue Towns Over Gun Laws [View all] Sugarcoated Oct 2014 OP

That's insane, Suich Oct 2014 #1

No, not just you Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #2

The law is only about standing to sue. branford Oct 2014 #4

Actually it looks to me Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #17

written as someone who has never been sued dsc Oct 2014 #19

I agree with you Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #21

You really didn't address my point. branford Oct 2014 #20

What I see Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #22

So you think it's a good idea to have every county/city/town within a state to make it's own GGJohn Oct 2014 #24

If this isn't the NRA and gun extremists Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #25

It's an attempt to get uniform laws across the state and not make more criminals GGJohn Oct 2014 #27

If that's the case, then I'm not opposed to that Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #50

The new PA law changes absolutely nothing about current gun restrictions or safety. branford Oct 2014 #26

I support common sense gun safety laws Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #42

That's fine, and you're certainly welcome to advocate any position you wish. branford Oct 2014 #46

I stopped reading after the first line of your post Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #48

no sense arguing with a hell-bent gunner. notrightatall Oct 2014 #51

Sure seems that way, doesn't it? Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #52

Odd. They would have to sue in state court because a plaintiff who has been harmed is a requirement merrily Oct 2014 #3

Standing has been a constant issue in the law happyslug Oct 2014 #13

These GunNutters are going to be the death of this country. SoapBox Oct 2014 #5

Another ALEC plot? SoapBox Oct 2014 #6

Insanity. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #7

Gun laws or any laws more restrictive than state law? Downwinder Oct 2014 #8

"without having to find actual plaintiffs who can demonstrate that they've been harmed by the law" Volaris Oct 2014 #9

I almost thought this is onion-worthy satire... TRoN33 Oct 2014 #10

PA is going crazy with right-wing legislation at the moment. They must be trying to enough Oct 2014 #11

PA is controlled by teabaggers. Governor, State House, State Senate, 13/18 US House Reps, and AlinPA Oct 2014 #12

Well, the writing is on the wall for Corbett Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #15

Disagree. He is an ignorant stupid teabagger. AlinPA Oct 2014 #41

Details Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #43

If Democrats in PA turn out to vote. This state has turned stupid, electing so many teabaggers. AlinPA Oct 2014 #44

Not this time though Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #49

This law is one paragraph in a law otherwise directed at metal thieves.. happyslug Oct 2014 #14

Weasel fuckers Sugarcoated Oct 2014 #16

Does Pennsylvania have a state pre-emption law? GGJohn Oct 2014 #18

Appears this will make church/state actions easier Paulie Oct 2014 #23

Democracy doe's not exist on the federal and state level , how dare local communities geretogo Oct 2014 #28

Are you really advocating that localities should be able to violate state law, branford Oct 2014 #29

I am willing to live by Majority rule with in the boundaries of the Constitution not by minority rule geretogo Oct 2014 #30

Even when the majority is actually conservative? branford Oct 2014 #32

Well done, Pennsylvania legislators. Aristus Oct 2014 #31

Do you have any evidence that the majority of PA citizens do not support the law? branford Oct 2014 #33

Okay. You're new here, so I'll let that slide. Aristus Oct 2014 #34

You left half of it out, GGJohn Oct 2014 #35

I did that deliberately in order to highlight the fact that pro-gunners always Aristus Oct 2014 #36

That's not the constitutional interpretation established by the Supreme Court, branford Oct 2014 #38

Please don't ask me to respect the judical acumen of the Felonius Five. Aristus Oct 2014 #39

Respectfully, did you read my post? branford Oct 2014 #40

Let the gun carnage continue. Brigid Oct 2014 #37

What does the NRA have against lost or stolen guns being reported? logosoco Oct 2014 #45

Do feel the same way if localities want more permissive and liberal gun regulations than state law? branford Oct 2014 #47

This is special treatment of gun owners. alarimer Oct 2014 #53