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93. I thought she was from Illinois

Wed Oct 29, 2014, 09:08 AM

Oct 2014

Not sure where I came up with that before, but for some reason I thought I had read that she was from downstate Illinois somewhere: Bloomington, Champaign, somewhere like that.

Hmph.

Oh well.

ABC says that she says she'll comply with the "self-monitoring" requirements, so that's at least a start.

Maybe a compromise? It seems to me that all of the cases we've seen "up close and personal" here have exhibited themselves within about ten days of exposure. Perhaps she could voluntarily agree to a quarantine of ten days from the day she flew out of Freetown. She got to Newark on Friday, which means that she left Freetown on Thursday. Get her a nice room up at the Attean Lake Lodge through Sunday night and then if she doesn't show any symptoms, send her on her way so long as she keeps self-monitoring.

Seems fair to me.

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Kaci Hickox Won't Follow Maine Ebola Quarantine Rule, Lawyer Says [View all] coyote Oct 2014 OP

Arrest her and put her in isolation. cosmicone Oct 2014 #1

she is a ficken doctor dembotoz Oct 2014 #3

No - she's not a doctor leftynyc Oct 2014 #6

She is a certified epidemiologist, why do you folks hate educated folks? Christie is a blowhard. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #8

Is she a fucking doctor leftynyc Oct 2014 #16

Results of Jury service Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #58

Thanks for posting the results (n/t) leftynyc Oct 2014 #79

You are operating on little information and lots of assumptions Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #123

Sigh leftynyc Oct 2014 #144

I must ask Scairp Oct 2014 #155

And another sigh leftynyc Oct 2014 #159

The rules aren't fact-base Scairp Oct 2014 #163

I'll try and be more careful leftynyc Oct 2014 #174

What part of CDC protocols (#63 - a reply to you) are you claiming she won't follow? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #165

The governor of Maine leftynyc Oct 2014 #178

Then you should stop invoking the CDC as if they support your viewpoint muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #188

Maybe this will help clear up some confusion. Quackers Oct 2014 #235

And those who should know azureblue Oct 2014 #197

Not only that, but Ebola is not as deadly as it seems Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #242

You hate educated people in general and medical folks in particular....now we all understand. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #160

Careful, cupcake leftynyc Oct 2014 #173

The vast majority are telling you are the cupcake, crumbling with fear, now you react with Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #206

LOL leftynyc Oct 2014 #209

agree CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #169

Well said Elmer. nt Sienna86 Oct 2014 #147

Thanks. Sienna! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #248

She is refusing the CDC guidelines. former9thward Oct 2014 #107

You are as wrong as can be. From the post, you did read it I hope: Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #116

Well, the CDC does have its problems liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #117

I think a nurse who has just been dealing with ebola FIRSTHAND knows what it can do. Demit Oct 2014 #138

Well, apparently the doctor liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #145

Ignorance Scairp Oct 2014 #156

What symptoms were those? Demit Oct 2014 #166

He wasn't showing symptoms until last Thursday morning muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #167

oohhhh heaven05 Oct 2014 #48

The CDC does NOT recommend quarantine if no symptoms. askeptic Oct 2014 #54

just wondering DustyJoe Oct 2014 #101

Because the ARMY can. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #105

I have a cousin who joined the Army liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #120

Obama is the CIC of the Army. former9thward Oct 2014 #162

why would he do that in this case? fishwax Oct 2014 #181

People (on this thread) claim it is not necessary. former9thward Oct 2014 #191

lol -- the criticism of Obama doesn't make any sense fishwax Oct 2014 #194

Top commanders in the military are now Ebola experts? former9thward Oct 2014 #211

no, but they are experts on the military fishwax Oct 2014 #215

And the governors are experts on their state. So what? former9thward Oct 2014 #216

i never said governors bad military good fishwax Oct 2014 #218

You know full well if he did half the country (and some on DU) Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #250

Just to clarify, The Joint Chief's Chairman, Vice Chairman & Service Chiefs are not Top Commanders. 24601 Oct 2014 #261

Just wondering... Scairp Oct 2014 #139

why would one expect the protocol for a military unit to be the same as for civilians? fishwax Oct 2014 #177

um per the article she IS FOLLOWING CDC PROTOCOLS magical thyme Oct 2014 #62

A quarantine must be marions ghost Oct 2014 #87

Well, I'm not a scientist..... SCVDem Oct 2014 #118

She is not in the high risk category, so I don't think the CDC "stay away from public areas" applies muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #63

Wasn't Dr. Spencer also in the Some Risk category? PADemD Oct 2014 #98

Spencer HAS Ebola, try to keep up. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #121

That's what I tried to bring up upthread liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #122

I expect so; 'some risk' is not 'no risk'; there is no sign anyone has been infected by him muriel_volestrangler Oct 2014 #136

there is no sign anyone has been infected by him PADemD Oct 2014 #146

did you read the article? blackcrowflies Oct 2014 #97

Probably the same type of entitled liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #113

If your nurse friend would be the first to care for an ebola patient without hesitation, Demit Oct 2014 #142

What you said n/t Scairp Oct 2014 #196

I don't hold much leftynyc Oct 2014 #148

"entitled" marions ghost Oct 2014 #164

Spare me the hysteria leftynyc Oct 2014 #203

Well, she obviously understands the situation better than you do. Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #251

Because she's a nurse? leftynyc Oct 2014 #266

That's pretty silly Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #270

WFT? Scairp Oct 2014 #200

More hyperbolic nonsense leftynyc Oct 2014 #204

Three WHOLE blocks? Scairp Oct 2014 #236

Yawn leftynyc Oct 2014 #265

But are you hiding in the closet? Don't forget the DHS duct tape! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #252

She's not a doctor; she's a nurse. PADemD Oct 2014 #7

Wow. And Christie is what, the delicate flower...some folks do not like strong women. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #10

Kaci Hickox is now fighting Maine's quarantine order. PADemD Oct 2014 #18

So now you support anti science Christie AND insane Lepage? Has fear SO blinded you? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #22

I support quarantine orders, no matter who signs them. PADemD Oct 2014 #35

89-90 % of the public blackcrowflies Oct 2014 #100

What a joke Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #129

I haven't opened your links...yet but this is my thinking. UNTIL snappyturtle Oct 2014 #161

they'll never get your point heaven05 Oct 2014 #49

They can have their fear, they can swim in an ocean of it for all I care, just stop spreading the virus. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #72

Sometimes this place seems closer to "The Outer Limits" !! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2014 #130

LePage Scairp Oct 2014 #237

this has nothing to do with Christie. The issue is the safety of the public, at large. DeadEyeDyck Oct 2014 #43

ooohhhh!!!!! heaven05 Oct 2014 #51

And that little bit of knowledge should have included what the CDC recommends jeff47 Oct 2014 #154

It's not a matter of whether a politician is dumb. It's about compliance with regs and law. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #14

Christie clearly abused the law and you support him because......you is scared? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #17

No, I'm not. and shaming name calling you engage in is rhetorical fallacy HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #25

Dissent against abuse of political authority was the foundation of America, there is that. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #27

Not comparable. And that's a diversion from the issue HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #39

...^ that 840high Oct 2014 #115

You can not reason with fear and paranoia, they cling to it like Saran Wrap on an sandwich. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #23

First of all, she's a nurse, not a doctor. liberalhistorian Oct 2014 #111

She is a nurse with specialized Master's degree's.....In Public Health and Tropical Nursing... riversedge Oct 2014 #233

Agree PADemD Oct 2014 #20

Because...? Hissyspit Oct 2014 #106

She is not infected, and there is no LAW. Your fear is overwhelming your thinking. askeptic Oct 2014 #34

Fighting the fear....thank you, sir, lot of folks want to be fearful, it is the true virus. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #44

Polarity has indeed been reversed. I find myself agreeing with your posts these days. HERVEPA Oct 2014 #52

good one heaven05 Oct 2014 #59

Totally agree marions ghost Oct 2014 #71

Just re-read the Constitution, especially the Ebola Amendment. Oops, the Constitution is silent on 24601 Oct 2014 #262

There are laws that allow for the government to quarantine citizens to prevent the spread Calista241 Oct 2014 #264

??? heaven05 Oct 2014 #42

WHy stop there? She's a witch~! Kill her!11!!1 PSPS Oct 2014 #60

Look ... if she floats, then clearly she's made of wood ... JoePhilly Oct 2014 #68

Or she could be a duck. Kber Oct 2014 #131

Burn this no nothing heretic "medic" at the stake, Lepage must now be the fucking hero to these fear Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #76

She turned me into Newt Gingrich! yellowcanine Oct 2014 #214

When exactly did she become a "patient"? JoePhilly Oct 2014 #65

Did I miss something? Was she diagnosed? Cal Carpenter Oct 2014 #75

she is not a patient. barbtries Oct 2014 #96

Already knowing this makes this thread far more baffling JonLP24 Oct 2014 #238

yeah, i feel a whiff of hysteria. barbtries Oct 2014 #239

She's not a patient. Demit Oct 2014 #112

What the hell for? Scairp Oct 2014 #135

Last I checked, you have to break the law to be arrested. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2014 #224

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She is not contagious Warpy Oct 2014 #277

I'm sure she is correct about the fact that she is asymptomatic and not a risk to others. enough Oct 2014 #2

This Lady RobinA Oct 2014 #5

Illusion versus reality, you prefer your illusions...go for it. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #12

Are your constitutional rights... catnhatnh Oct 2014 #69

They have been in the past, technically speaking. Heywood J Oct 2014 #268

Yep... catnhatnh Oct 2014 #269

Fuck LePage PeoViejo Oct 2014 #4

You cannot pick and choose what laws to follow, you fight for change within the system. Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #9

What size of harm? She is perfectly healthy. The "what ifs" are the basis of your fear. I accept Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #13

What should she do if she is out in public and comes down with a fever? Answer that one! Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #30

The old "what ifs"....what if's are endless, the endless well of possibilities to drive fear forever Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #41

Didn't answer the question. I guess it has to happen first in your book before you deal with it. Dustlawyer Oct 2014 #45

She should go to the doctor and not exchange bodily fluids with anyone. Gore1FL Oct 2014 #53

her hypothetical fever does not constitute a risk barbtries Oct 2014 #94

She should wrap herself in plastic sheeting and duct tape and run msanthrope Oct 2014 #109

The answer to your questions: Marrah_G Oct 2014 #182

Ah, yes. 9/11 all over again. Daemonaquila Oct 2014 #92

Like hearing the word "polio" before there was a vaccine. PADemD Oct 2014 #110

And just in time for Halloween El Shaman Oct 2014 #133

Thanks to Teabaggers like Christie and Lepage, since that group led the way to budget cuts Tommymac Oct 2014 #137

Yep. MDs and nurses aren't above the law. HereSince1628 Oct 2014 #15

tell that to......... heaven05 Oct 2014 #46

See Post #19 n/t PeoViejo Oct 2014 #50

Rosa Parks would disagree with you. nt Sienna86 Oct 2014 #153

of course you can fishwax Oct 2014 #186

What "laws" are you referring to? truebluegreen Oct 2014 #257

I cannot help but think this was planned. coyote Oct 2014 #11

I's not a Law PeoViejo Oct 2014 #19

Love how folks do not see the pandering and abuse of an average citizens liberty. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #24

Some folks, even on science loving DU want this perfectly healthy person back inside the plastic tent Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #21

I agree with you 100% coyote Oct 2014 #31

quit spreading falsehoods please Duckhunter935 Oct 2014 #32

she has been proven heaven05 Oct 2014 #57

No. She has NOT been proven to be disease free. That is why the 21 days quarantine adigal Oct 2014 #74

You have no appreciation for the science, it is your right and privilege. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #86

I saw you refuse to answer a question posed to you about what happens if she is out and about and adigal Oct 2014 #90

ummm she is going to be fine one minute and projectile vomiting the next Marrah_G Oct 2014 #172

People freaking adore those that share their freakout, herd mentality. They side with Cruz and Palin Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #226

The Director of the Maine CDC disagrees with you - may have been too early to test adigal Oct 2014 #208

ohhhh!!!!! heaven05 Oct 2014 #221

If you are going to jump on the enlightenment Oct 2014 #88

Yes, she was tested. charliea Oct 2014 #103

Thank you for the additional information enlightenment Oct 2014 #141

her right heaven05 Oct 2014 #222

Science loving DU? With all the woo I see on this site. Hardly. HERVEPA Oct 2014 #56

She is probably right. She is probably not infected. But if she is wrong she will probably kill CBGLuthier Oct 2014 #26

right heaven05 Oct 2014 #47

We've had exposed people flying on airplanes, truebluegreen Oct 2014 #259

88 gun deaths per day in the U.S. Submariner Oct 2014 #28

^^^THIS^^^ That Flying Metal Cylinder Disease is more likely to kill you valerief Oct 2014 #189

from a twitter: azureblue Oct 2014 #219

She has two degrees in epidemiology. That is the study of contageous disease. Hoppy Oct 2014 #29

No. She is just a "medic", what does she know, some folks say...the ignorance and demonization is Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #36

I think she's right but breaking the law's a bad idea AndreaCG Oct 2014 #33

Holy shit, Batman, ya think LePage may be doing a political ploy? Never! Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #37

Man are you unnecessarily rude!!!! AndreaCG Oct 2014 #78

Then you would know the difference between a law and a fly by your pants regulation? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #80

So are you saying the executive orders Obama makes AndreaCG Oct 2014 #99

LOL. Presidential EO's versus teabagger pandering, not even a good try at deflection. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #119

umm, this is why she has vowed to challenge its legality. It's not Constitutional and they know it askeptic Oct 2014 #185

Well it will be up to the courts then AndreaCG Oct 2014 #205

The 15 minute interlude must be coming up seveneyes Oct 2014 #38

I don't blame her heaven05 Oct 2014 #40

I don't either. jen63 Oct 2014 #67

Seems to be clear from day 1 that 'setting a precedent' was her new mission... JimDandy Oct 2014 #140

She doesn't have ebola! jen63 Oct 2014 #241

How do you know? candelista Oct 2014 #247

They may as well be the same, jen63 Oct 2014 #249

But you can BECOME symptomatic. candelista Oct 2014 #253

No need for quarantine jen63 Oct 2014 #254

If Obama changes his mind on this issue, will you? candelista Oct 2014 #255

Nope. jen63 Oct 2014 #258

No one said she has Ebola! But you knew that. JimDandy Oct 2014 #263

Good for her. alarimer Oct 2014 #55

Breaking the law? seabeckind Oct 2014 #61

I am surprised, appalled and fucking angry. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #81

Not surprised at all now Fumesucker Oct 2014 #210

She was quarantined in a NJ hospital HockeyMom Oct 2014 #64

Looked more like a tent to me. seabeckind Oct 2014 #70

Very true HockeyMom Oct 2014 #73

So, all you people claiming doctors and nurses are smart enough to self-isolate - WRONG!!!! adigal Oct 2014 #66

She IS abiding by the CDC protocols, it says so right in the article, she refuses the "make up a Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #82

"self-monitor" "self-isolate" These terms are not synonyms. truebluegreen Oct 2014 #260

We better stop her from spreading ebola even if she doesn't have it!!!11 Cobalt Violet Oct 2014 #77

That is what the anti-science folk feel but are too embarrassed to say. thank you. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #83

We have a dangerous contagious disease spreading through the Democratic Party whereisjustice Oct 2014 #84

"Deliver us from evil". When the folks demand it the politicians will pander to it. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #89

it's no use, fred. it's like i always say: some people love having their fears fed. critical locdlib Oct 2014 #124

I am not trying to reason with fear, it is useless as you say, shaming is the only way. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #127

threat level orange! Or is it peach? panic! nt geek tragedy Oct 2014 #85

I'd call it Threat Level Brown The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2014 #102

Good for her. Daemonaquila Oct 2014 #91

Can she please take her stand alone, in her own home? PADemD Oct 2014 #128

I thought she was from Illinois Travelman Oct 2014 #93

Why should she have to follow your fear? jeff47 Oct 2014 #149

i'm on her side. barbtries Oct 2014 #95

Ebola Quarantine Showdown: Nurse Kaci Hickox Threatened With Arrest IDemo Oct 2014 #104

Insane pandering to a hysterical public. Marrah_G Oct 2014 #184

She may not have much of a legal leg to stand on. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #108

Nancy Snyderman had less contact with ebola than Hickox, and yet everyone TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #114

You find it "strange" because you do not believe in the science, I get it. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #126

I think some of the opposition to quarantine on this site has to do with AIDS. candelista Oct 2014 #132

I agree with that--certainly a big part of it. TwilightGardener Oct 2014 #134

Ive read she works for the CDC Travis_0004 Oct 2014 #125

She should be fired for doing what the CDC says she should do. jeff47 Oct 2014 #152

No, you s/b put on Ignore. Favorite=Gun Control and RKBA. valerief Oct 2014 #192

Good for her. Love it. Sienna86 Oct 2014 #143

She was imprisoned in NJ and now Maine wants to do the same?!?! d_legendary1 Oct 2014 #150

This looks like a pretty good place for a quarantine. candelista Oct 2014 #151

Science should control here Gothmog Oct 2014 #157

Does the government have the right to quarantine people? Calista241 Oct 2014 #158

Ask the question the correct way. seabeckind Oct 2014 #168

A judge would cite an "overriding state interest." candelista Oct 2014 #175

So where is this judge? seabeckind Oct 2014 #176

Where? candelista Oct 2014 #180

Ahh, the one who never issued the order. seabeckind Oct 2014 #187

Let's do the other part of your hypothesis. seabeckind Oct 2014 #183

I don't understand your comments. candelista Oct 2014 #190

Getting a court order from a judge seabeckind Oct 2014 #199

Quarantines are allowed under the Public Health and Welfare Act. Calista241 Oct 2014 #193

yes, but it's a state power TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #285

BS CullenBohannon Oct 2014 #170

I agree. n/t SpankMe Oct 2014 #179

Stubborn and selfish? No, just challenging illegal arrest askeptic Oct 2014 #195

she hasn't been arrested TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #286

Sheesh all this arguing is senseless people. If the CDC thought she should be held cstanleytech Oct 2014 #171

I'm on her side. tammywammy Oct 2014 #198

Smart people are Scairp Oct 2014 #256

This message was self-deleted by its author rocktivity Oct 2014 #201

If the problem -- the fear -- is that she could go symptomatic at any second rocktivity Oct 2014 #202

The first symptom is always, always, an elevated temperture, the medical folks can figure that out, Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #207

The only thing I "fear" is Ebola being "exported" to other countries rocktivity Oct 2014 #212

Good idea. candelista Oct 2014 #244

The actual CDC Ebola Guidelines (PDF) rocktivity Oct 2014 #213

Quarantining perfectly healthy people is asinine. PDJane Oct 2014 #217

You are assuming the point at issue. candelista Oct 2014 #246

If she is asymptomatic, she doesn't need to be quarantined. PDJane Oct 2014 #271

:) candelista Oct 2014 #274

You mean, like the doctor who turned himself in and was quarantined then? PDJane Oct 2014 #275

Trust "medical professionals"? Like Dr. Spencer? candelista Oct 2014 #276

One more time. Slowly, carefully, and with feeling. He was asymptomatic. PDJane Oct 2014 #278

I don't see why you don't get it. candelista Oct 2014 #279

medical personnel know when they are contagious. PDJane Oct 2014 #280

Burn her! wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #220

DUzy!!! rocktivity Oct 2014 #229

I made it! wheniwasincongress Oct 2014 #267

Picasa? Thanks, but I've already had lunch. rocktivity Oct 2014 #282

Good for her! Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2014 #223

If this logic is acceptable to the Sovereign Citizen crowd, it must be applicable to her as well bluestateguy Oct 2014 #227

Sitting in the segregated Southern Lunch counters was breaking the law too. NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #231

It's amazing seeing all this mob hysteria in DU blackcrowflies Oct 2014 #228

I don't find it all that amazing. Hissyspit Oct 2014 #240

Sometimes civil disobedience is needed--This is one of those times.. riversedge Oct 2014 #230

Amen to that! NutmegYankee Oct 2014 #232

She is an intelligent nurse with lots of courage....She really riversedge Oct 2014 #234

It will be interesting to see what the courts say about this - if it gets that far. Chemisse Oct 2014 #243

A reminder to those who want to arrest her, she passed a blood test and has zero symptoms. whereisjustice Oct 2014 #245

Personally... Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #272

Her family isn't at risk. PDJane Oct 2014 #281

A Question of Priorities Sparhawk60 Oct 2014 #283

That is a totally unscientific and completely stupid way of looking at a very intrusive policy. PDJane Oct 2014 #284

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