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In reply to the discussion: Obama: It’s time for Augusta golf club to admit women members [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)98. Well, aren't they the lucky ducks! No problem, then! Silly things!
If that boss inviting you for the foursome is a woman, it's off to the shitty course, then. And if the boss does have a pair, well gee--that woman visiting the course can't EVER expect her application for membership to be favorably reviewed, now, can she?
I think that any THINKING American, in the 21st Century, can see what is wrong here. Augusta is free to discriminate all they want, but I don't want or need to see the fruits of that discrimination on my television on the public airwaves for all my female relatives to behold, and believe, for even a second, that this is "OK." The FCC--my government, of by and for all the people, not just the men--issues that broadcast license. Further, those corporations that sponsor that event earn profits from both men and women, and they need to understand very clearly what is wrong with perpetuating the idea that discrimination is "OK" solely because they have been doing it since 1934.
The only reason the golfers are no longer all white, and the caddies all black (as the owner of that well-groomed cesspool once boasted) is because THINKING Americans said "Uh uh--that shit is just WRONG." Well, this shit is just WRONG, too.
They can do what they want--I just don't think they should either profit or be glorified via network television for it and I think Americans with brains are well within their rights to stand up and say "Cut that out." Decisions have consequences. One of the consequences should be that they need to forego the barrels of cash they get from perpetuating discrimination over FCC licensed airwaves and being proud of it. When one tries to pass off 'exclusion' as 'tradition' one is on a moron's path. That kind of attitude is dumb, noxious, and wrong.
This isn't a "b" or "c" word discussion--we're not talking about "names can never hurt one." Everyone has a differing level of tolerance for words, and words don't keep a person out of the member's bar or off the course. This kind of conduct, this cheery "You Don't Belong" attitude, is a direct affront to every female person on the globe, particularly when these bozos are taking money, hand over fist, from men as well as women.
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Article just assumes there are no women members or that there is a no woman policy
AngryAmish
Apr 2012
#16
It is irrelevant (to nearly everyone except the RW appointees on the Supreme Ct) whether there is a
spooky3
Apr 2012
#56
From what I can see, they won't release their bylaws, but they clearly have a longstanding
cbayer
Apr 2012
#19
Every member gets a copy of the bylaws, in a cute little green booklet, every year.
MADem
Apr 2012
#89
But then they'd have to bring all their vagina stuff and they'd vagina all over the place.
Ian David
Apr 2012
#3
If corporations are people, they shouldn't be discriminating against other people on public airwaves
MADem
Apr 2012
#81
DU chooses its members based on their political ideology, not whether they have a penis.
Skinner
Apr 2012
#24
A private club can choose it's members based on all sorts of silly qualifications
AngryAmish
Apr 2012
#25
Obama was smart to take the moderate -- not progressive position -- that he did.
pnwmom
Apr 2012
#32
It is not a club I would join (but let's face facts they ain't inviting me).
AngryAmish
Apr 2012
#33
The short answer is there are many organizations that discriminate on all sorts of bases
AngryAmish
Apr 2012
#51
What if the big meeting of the business you are engaged in is being held on the links at Augusta?
MADem
Apr 2012
#88
There are trade associations specifically for minority groups in all kinds of businesses.
cbayer
Apr 2012
#49
Exactly. And some businesses take deductions for their payments for memberships.
spooky3
Apr 2012
#55
In fact, the club was cowed into taking their first black member in 1990 because
cbayer
Apr 2012
#58
Corporations take profits generated from people of both genders to fund a golf show broadcast on
MADem
Apr 2012
#83
Freepers can stop being freezers ... not sure IBM's CEO can easily "change" ...
JoePhilly
Apr 2012
#27
it is NOT a "private" club when businesses deduct membership costs, where advertising revenue is
spooky3
Apr 2012
#57
And by staking out the moderate position, Obama is forcing Romney further right.
pnwmom
Apr 2012
#29
There is no daylight between Romney and Obama on this particular matter. None. nt
MADem
Apr 2012
#86
Why, is there a law that says a president cant comment on it or on other issues?
cstanleytech
Apr 2012
#114
Because a lot of business takes place on golf course, particularly courses like this.
cbayer
Apr 2012
#31
As a member you can bring your business colleagues to play at one of the best courses in the USA.
MADem
Apr 2012
#87
When Eisenhower basically said he would enforce the law when it came to desegregating schools, it
merbex
Apr 2012
#22
If they were slower players than you, why didn't you just ask them if you could play through?
cbayer
Apr 2012
#40
And how would you feel if they continued to block African Americans from membership, as they did at
spooky3
Apr 2012
#54
Actually it is a private club and if they wanted to block someone from joining based on their skin
cstanleytech
Apr 2012
#115
You think those corporations would continue to sponsor without the ability to advertise on network
MADem
Apr 2012
#108
If you think the prize money is the only reason people compete in the Masters, you are extremely
Hosnon
Apr 2012
#109
I'm not quite sure where your level of disdain comes from, but it is quite clear it is high.
Hosnon
Apr 2012
#122
What does the "growth rate" of investing the purse have to do with the prize money? Answer-nothing.
MADem
Apr 2012
#128
I imagine many people either cannot or simply will not see the critical and relevant differences...
LanternWaste
Apr 2012
#79
When Curves holds a tournament sponsored by major US corporations, broadcast over FCC-licensed
MADem
Apr 2012
#90
I can just imagine if somebody like MoRon Paul were asked to comment on this.
Jamaal510
Apr 2012
#70
Ridiculouos. So a 1% club will get forced to allow another 1% female to join, that's progress?
harun
Apr 2012
#84
HUGE PRIZE MONEY. Put up by corporations with male and female shareholders and customers--
MADem
Apr 2012
#103
I'm assuming you have some sort of professional or personal knowledge to back up your
Hosnon
Apr 2012
#112
It's the prestige. Despite what a few are claiming here, it is not only about the prize money.
Hosnon
Apr 2012
#111
Of course it's not chicken feed. But anyone with a modicum of golf knowledge, specifically,
Hosnon
Apr 2012
#121
If Augusta ever had it's "major" status yanked, its clout and popularity would fall off a cliff
Blue_Tires
Apr 2012
#132
read through the entire thread and replaced the word 'woman' with the word 'gay'.
LanternWaste
Apr 2012
#77