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Xithras

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13. Per the USSC, local governments (including police) have no authority over air space. At all.
Sun Nov 2, 2014, 09:42 PM
Nov 2014

Per federal law, local police departments do NOT have the authority to close airspace. They can request that the FAA issue a TFR and close it, but the FAA is under no obligation to comply with that request, and local police agencies have no recourse if the FAA declines.

Under federal law, TFR's are only to be granted if the requesting authority can demonstrate that leaving the airspace open presents an immediate threat to passing aircraft or to people on the ground. There have been situations where TFR's have been legitimately issued for police actions, including hostage situations where live TV coverage would have given hostage takers operational information about the police surrounding them.

If FPD requested an airspace closure simply to keep the press away, the request was not legal. It's certainly not the first time the government has done this sort of thing (the government also closed the airspace above the BP oil spill for a while), but it's not something that is legal OR legitimate. The government does NOT have the legal authority to do this kind of crap, but we still see this kind of Bush-era behavior because nobody has bothered to slap their hand for it yet.

It's time for the media to file some lawsuits so the courts can commence with the hand slapping. The Constitution protects the press, not the police.

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So much for the "free press" Caretha Nov 2014 #1
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And shut down airspace? Caretha Nov 2014 #7
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There was a crime scene Caretha Nov 2014 #11
Please stop insulting the word 'thinking'. You've come face to face with a copologist* and KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #14
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Um, no. blackspade Nov 2014 #40
...and because they're fucking asshole shit stain pigs gopiscrap Nov 2014 #57
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Comparing the Ferguson protests to a "hostage situation"? Ash_F Nov 2014 #19
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Nah, your other posts in this thread spell you out. Ash_F Nov 2014 #37
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Logic... blackspade Nov 2014 #41
Per the USSC, local governments (including police) have no authority over air space. At all. Xithras Nov 2014 #13
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How would live coverage "inflame the situation and make it worse"? KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #18
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"Keep in mind they are breaking windows and stealing everything that isnt [sic] bolted down." If the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #29
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Now you've resorted to race baiting... blackspade Nov 2014 #42
I screwed up here JonLP24 Nov 2014 #44
It happens.... blackspade Nov 2014 #45
You are responding to a copologist, someone who believes the police can KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #17
We all depend on the police... reACTIONary Nov 2014 #28
Oh puh-leeze. That may sound good in 8th-grade civics class. A constabulary's KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #34
There really is nothing wrong... reACTIONary Nov 2014 #36
SHOES heaven05 Nov 2014 #46
The person whom I was referencing with that term appears to have left the building, as all of his or KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #50
S/He certainly did flame out rather quickly... reACTIONary Nov 2014 #54
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Reality is much different 2banon Nov 2014 #56
So what's the difference between. .. reACTIONary Nov 2014 #59
there's a huge chasm between Justice and the Law, Peace and UNCHECKED AUTHORITARIAN CONTROL 2banon Nov 2014 #60
I am interested... reACTIONary Nov 2014 #61
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Before this, I've tended to pooh-pooh those who call the U.S. either a KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #12
And with that little stunt we see the first amendment being violated in 2 different ways diabeticman Nov 2014 #2
I would be lying if I said this is a surprise because it isnt. nt cstanleytech Nov 2014 #3
Believe nothing of what you hear, and half of what you see. Downwinder Nov 2014 #4
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Straw man Caretha Nov 2014 #8
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What Are You A Cop? billhicks76 Nov 2014 #21
If not a cop, then certainly a 'copologist'. Authoritarian personality type who thinks cops can KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #22
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I was called that heaven05 Nov 2014 #47
That was a sad personal attack.... blackspade Nov 2014 #43
Imagine if Putin had done this daleo Nov 2014 #23
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I have relatives in Furgison, and... reACTIONary Nov 2014 #33
Too close to elections, the truth will be the first causualty in a class war gone hot. Sick whereisjustice Nov 2014 #49
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who is this FAA boob? TorchTheWitch Nov 2014 #55
The Revolution will not be Televised harun Nov 2014 #58
They could have still sent News Drones. Helen Borg Nov 2014 #62
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