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22. It was a foregone conclusion that they would take the case

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:41 PM

Nov 2014

There is a split in the circuits. The DC Circuit struck down the relevant portion of the ACA. The Fourth Circuit upheld it. It didn't matter which case made it to the Supreme Court first -- the Court was going to hear it. (The DC case was challenged through the filing of an petition for that court to rehear the case "en banc", so it hasn't been the subject of a petition to the Supreme Court yet. As a result, the challenge to the Fourth Circuit reached the Supreme Court first. The petition for the Court to hear the case was filed on July 31 and the final round of briefs was just filed October 15, so the timing of the decision to take the case is about what would be expected all things considered.

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Supreme Court Agrees to Rule on Insurance Subsidies in Challenge to Obama Health Law [View all] Hissyspit Nov 2014 OP

Well, that didn't take long. Those phone lines in DC are burnin' up. CurtEastPoint Nov 2014 #1

Right-wingers just chomping at the bit to get other Americans to suffer Hissyspit Nov 2014 #3

Americans must want to suffer and die onecaliberal Nov 2014 #11

Meanwhile, the subsidies for tobacco, oil and other connected biz's rock on... nt JudyM Nov 2014 #58

You got that right! workinclasszero Nov 2014 #60

Will this be a BOHICA moment? Autumn Nov 2014 #2

Probably. n/t Moondog Nov 2014 #75

Well, that's it then... louis-t Nov 2014 #4

Don't underestimate the power of the insurance companies. They do not want to lose that money! jwirr Nov 2014 #27

They will just stop offering plans in federal exchanges geek tragedy Nov 2014 #36

Pre-existing exclusions are illegal and this is not being challenged in this case. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #48

Only illegal in the exchanges. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #51

No, pre-existing condition exclusions are illegal for all policies, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #56

No. If the subsidies go the mandate goes . geek tragedy Nov 2014 #64

It's a Goner bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #5

Wow, but of course! We are being Euphoria Nov 2014 #68

No, their clause will be that they didn't pass a flawed law which should have first been read. 24601 Nov 2014 #96

Fucking fuckers. geardaddy Nov 2014 #6

D*MN IT a kennedy Nov 2014 #7

Can't imagine that Roberts would take another bullet on this rurallib Nov 2014 #8

thinking the same harun Nov 2014 #26

Satan would be worse than John Roberts... perdita9 Nov 2014 #33

If they rule agains the ACA... Orrex Nov 2014 #9

And they would be my new hero. nt Ykcutnek Nov 2014 #15

I can't advocate violence Orrex Nov 2014 #16

Rightwingers don't care if someone's child dies. The LibDemAlways Nov 2014 #53

More like durablend Nov 2014 #81

Toddlers are worthless leaches. Blanks Nov 2014 #86

All they care about is white fetuses. N/t roamer65 Nov 2014 #88

Mine already died, this country doesn't give a damn about poor people or low income working people Stargazer99 Nov 2014 #55

I'm so sorry. reflection Nov 2014 #74

:-( Odin2005 Nov 2014 #92

so many lawsuits from the party that hates them belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #10

If there was a law you were against, christx30 Nov 2014 #43

im against the speed limit law (being only 60mph), i hate it , but im not doing anything about it belzabubba333 Nov 2014 #47

Picture a law mandating church christx30 Nov 2014 #50

ACA bromeando Nov 2014 #12

I did. Shadowflash Nov 2014 #24

This might have the opposite effect from what they want. Darb Nov 2014 #13

The exact point I came here to make! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #18

Not to mention uninsured people with ebola. WHAT THEN, SIRS? aquart Nov 2014 #34

The people in those states by and through their representives and corporate media Iliyah Nov 2014 #19

The GOP will be killing off its own base. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #52

We already know these 5 justices don't give a shit about America nor its people Iliyah Nov 2014 #14

He takes off his mask and reveals that he was BarackTheVote Nov 2014 #28

Republicans are pure evil Don Draper Nov 2014 #17

And of course that means the Blue States will be subsidizing the expensive Red States LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #54

They'd really have to contort things to say it was the intent of Congress to give subsidies only Hoyt Nov 2014 #20

Then all tax subsidies should be illegal. Ikonoklast Nov 2014 #21

It was a foregone conclusion that they would take the case onenote Nov 2014 #22

There is no circuit split. DC Circuit is being heard en banc. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #25

Game over. RedSpartan Nov 2014 #23

Like Ian Millheiser said people will die because of 5 justices Hawaii Hiker Nov 2014 #29

No. DC circuit is moot now. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #31

Well, that's that. A drafting error by some shithead geek tragedy Nov 2014 #30

At least we have hope in NJ. RedSpartan Nov 2014 #32

Riiiiiight. aquart Nov 2014 #38

Not necessarily. branford Nov 2014 #40

Never say never RedSpartan Nov 2014 #46

Why? Darb Nov 2014 #71

It will be very easy to repeal as fewer and fewer people benefit. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #72

There will be no repeal under Obama. Darb Nov 2014 #82

Is there a legal expert who could weigh in? perdita9 Nov 2014 #35

Legal analysis : geek tragedy Nov 2014 #39

Roberts could have killed the ACA in total in 2012, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #45

Because he knew that wasn't the last chance to kill it. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #49

Now you're really not making sense. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #57

He would prefer to say the political process handled it . geek tragedy Nov 2014 #66

I agree, although keeping fingers crossed. This case is even easier to rationalize -- Intent of Hoyt Nov 2014 #61

Yes, I have been following the lower court cases Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #63

Is Welfare, Food Stamps, Section 8 Housing, etc., illegal? HockeyMom Nov 2014 #37

It was a drafting error specific to the ACA. nt geek tragedy Nov 2014 #41

If will be if the GOP get their way. Iliyah Nov 2014 #65

The actual law mentions subsides will apply to the state exchanges and neglects to mention Calista241 Nov 2014 #77

Medicare for ALL!!! Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #42

Yeah, with the G.O.P. controlling both houses of Congress... regnaD kciN Nov 2014 #59

I think you are right, but they did pass the Medicare drug program. They know ACA Hoyt Nov 2014 #69

Some states have a joint federal/state partnership. amandabeech Nov 2014 #44

Someone needs to be talking to the media about what the solution; avoid hysteria Justice Nov 2014 #62

The public will never hold Congress accountable geek tragedy Nov 2014 #67

If this goes through RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #70

Alright we are screwed turbinetree Nov 2014 #73

And it begins. merrily Nov 2014 #76

the wording of the law is clear quadrature Nov 2014 #78

Steve Benen's take on this is worth a read. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #79

Folks!! Please see this clip from Chris Hayes' show from July! It's important to see. boguspotus Nov 2014 #80

In a heartbeat they would. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #84

They already have. RedSpartan Nov 2014 #89

Hmmmmmm Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2014 #83

All that's going to be left of ObamaCare ... is the tax bill. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #85

So does this mean that the Gang of 5 Terroists SoapBox Nov 2014 #87

This case is the height of sneering cynicism Azathoth Nov 2014 #90

Fuck. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #91

This is bad. n/t. airplaneman Nov 2014 #93

We all know how the fascist five going to handle this! santamargarita Nov 2014 #94

This will be a BIG YES!!!! WE love Govt Money! librechik Nov 2014 #95