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(33,274 posts) Tue Apr 10, 2012, 11:18 AM Apr 2012

Marine will fight discharge over Obama comments [View all]

Source: CNN

A Marine facing discharge over criticism of President Barack Obama on a Facebook page he administers will fight in military and civilian courts, his attorney said Tuesday.

A military board recommended last week that Sgt. Gary Stein be given an other-than-honorable discharge on grounds that he violated "good order and discipline" by calling Obama a liar and suggesting he would not follow some orders issued by the president, among other comments posted to his Armed Forces Tea Party Facebook page.

The board found he also violated rules limiting political conduct by service members.

"This is not just a First Amendment case," attorney Gary Kreep said on CNN Tuesday. "They violated their own rules, they violated their own procedures."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/10/us/marine-obama/index.html

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Marine will fight discharge over Obama comments [View all] alp227 Apr 2012 OP

lots of luck with that....he ignored orders from his chain of command Fresh_Start Apr 2012 #1

Since he's not officer rank... Silent3 Apr 2012 #4

No he's not a commissioned officer atreides1 Apr 2012 #7

I'm curious what the orders were Silent3 Apr 2012 #13

The military is subordinate to the executive branch of government. denbot Apr 2012 #23

Yes. they sure as fuck can. You join the military, you follow their commands- cali Apr 2012 #24

Ever been in the military? atreides1 Apr 2012 #33

I know there are special rules... Silent3 Apr 2012 #35

"his free speech rights should be equal to, or nearly so, with some very narrow exceptions..." greiner3 Apr 2012 #12

It's not a matter of any "argument" of mine "failing"... Silent3 Apr 2012 #15

There is no "Draft," there is no excuse! Liber-AL Apr 2012 #20

In order to charge under Article 88, you have to have these Elements maxrandb Apr 2012 #21

Er...didn't I just say that art 88 applies Liber-AL Apr 2012 #25

No maxrandb Apr 2012 #30

Lets just look at the UCMJ articles..no need to Liber-AL Apr 2012 #36

You seem to have assumed that I disagtee with you maxrandb Apr 2012 #37

Agreed... We are on the same side. Liber-AL Apr 2012 #38

It's not only that. I have some experience with the UCMJ maxrandb Apr 2012 #19

Article 88 BeGoodDoGood Apr 2012 #28

Seems like insubordination Kelvin Mace Apr 2012 #18

I think the final straw was MysticLynx Apr 2012 #31

It sounds like the military did the right thing Renew Deal Apr 2012 #2

Hope he knows better in his next job Kolesar Apr 2012 #10

Stein has disgraced the Corps with his lack of discipline, it's time for him to go. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #3

disgraced donquijoterocket Apr 2012 #17

My first thought in these matters is ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #5

Next career: Professional right wing whiner on Fox News alp227 Apr 2012 #6

Yep ... n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #8

If he can make this a First Amendment issue and pull it off, that's good news for Bradley Maning W T F Apr 2012 #9

Misleading headline, should read: Marine discharged over claims he will refuse to follow orders groundloop Apr 2012 #11

These people hate Obama so much they don't care if they tear the moral fiber nanabugg Apr 2012 #14

Asshole should be ashamed of himself Typical NYC Lib Apr 2012 #22

"Surprise! Surprise! Surprise!" Tom Ripley Apr 2012 #16

LOL.. sendero Apr 2012 #26

That's ok, now he can become another "victime of the left" on Fix News. n/t Daniel537 Apr 2012 #27

This is not a first admendment issue ...... marble falls Apr 2012 #29

They should ask that dipshit one question: Myrina Apr 2012 #32

Are you kidding me? Bombero1956 Apr 2012 #34