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freshwest

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37. It'd definitely be a victory symbolically. Like blowing up a religious shrine. She's the ceremonial
Sun Nov 9, 2014, 07:36 AM
Nov 2014
head of the Church of England currently, even though some want the monarchy separated from the Church.

They're concerned a Catholic could become the king or queen of England in the future:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/8939402/Queens-role-as-head-of-Church-of-England-may-no-longer-be-appropriate.html

Imagine assassinating head of Islam in Iran, Khomeini, or destroying the Kaaba in Mecca or the Dome of the Rock, or some other such place.

She is part of England's history and mythology as a nation. Her death, and no doubt a violent one, would be as damaging as killing Kennedy was, although she is not government in the way we consider a POTUS.

I've been trying to grasp the monarchy concept and find it rather difficult. When the Scots were working to secede from the UK, articles were posted here about how even if Scotland left the UK, she would still be Queen of Scotland.

Puzzlin it, I thought of Rex Lex vs Lex Rex, our philosophy. She is a symbol of Rex Lex, but the Parliament makes the laws now. They still have a house of Lords made up of people, like her, who have their position in society because of birth and not the will of the people as expressed in elections.

Her role and that of the royals runs deeper than the UK. She is not a creation of government like our leaders. Royals have seen governments in the UK come and go. So it's a big deal to people there and ISIL or whoever was on this mission knew that very well.

I used to see photos of Muslim protestors in London carrying signs of how they would rule the country, that all Britain would bow to Islam, etc. This would fit that meme. That is a belief system.

I'm not into any of these religions, but billions are, so there's no escape from the believers. Religions, like royalty, outlast every government. They will keep doing what they do.

We don't know if this plot was religious, or political, as there has been bad blood between the West and Middle East, or if one chooses to classify it that way, between Christianity and Islam for millenia. Wars have been fought for many more years than the current nation states in the Americas existed. It's complicated over there.

That's my answer, but I may have gone too far for your question. True, she doesn't have real political power but she's a big deal to the English. If this happened, I have no idea what the UK would do.

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Notice the source for the queen as the target is The Sun, Murdoch's rag muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #1
USA corporate bullshit media is runing with it Iliyah Nov 2014 #12
Yeas, sure... Helen Borg Nov 2014 #2
For goodness sake, she's 88 years old. Why plot to kill her? Shrike47 Nov 2014 #3
As Queen, killing her would be considered a major symbolic victory Lurks Often Nov 2014 #17
I Somehow Doubt RobinA Nov 2014 #28
You are kidding? Scairp Nov 2014 #21
Practically a kid in that family Reter Nov 2014 #31
Killing the Queen would be seen by the Jihadists as an absolutely huge, historic victory, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #32
Why not just get rid of the Royals .. Lenomsky Nov 2014 #4
That's up to the people of Britain, GGJohn Nov 2014 #5
I'm British technically .. Lenomsky Nov 2014 #8
Hopefully not by assassination marshall Nov 2014 #45
Have the citizens of Britain indicated that they wish to relieve msanthrope Nov 2014 #7
Lenomsky Diclotican Nov 2014 #20
Diclotican, thanks for informing of the European POV. freshwest Nov 2014 #30
freshwest Diclotican Nov 2014 #43
It's really none of our business Scairp Nov 2014 #22
He is well-known for putting his foot into his mouth when speaking publicly. I have the impressiont Cal33 Nov 2014 #42
Time will do that before too long. EEO Nov 2014 #6
My BS threat level is red marmar Nov 2014 #9
My crap detector went red line with "Islamist" and knife attack. sarge43 Nov 2014 #13
Do you recall the weapons that the Islamists used on 9/11? (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #34
Yes and I also recall 3000 people murdered at once n/t sarge43 Nov 2014 #35
The members of ISIL used knives to cut the heads off of their victims. Major Hogwash Nov 2014 #36
Good point (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #41
Commercial jetliners... LanternWaste Nov 2014 #50
$20 says they were followers of Anjem Choudary cosmicone Nov 2014 #10
That would not be a surprise Scairp Nov 2014 #23
More casualties of Western media's forwarding of propaganda by terrorists to the masses, the terrorists need Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #11
Wait, isn't this the plot of "Naked Gun"? zonkers Nov 2014 #14
See, George? See what you're supposed to do when you receive intel that a terrorist attack... KansDem Nov 2014 #15
Going off topic here...but he sure did look like he was waiting to get "the nod" in that video. C Moon Nov 2014 #18
In the months following that iconic video, FSTV aired a program out of Canada about it. freshwest Nov 2014 #53
More of the same Feral Child Nov 2014 #16
Knives/axes, whats the difference? We've already had axe attacks 7962 Nov 2014 #29
A knife Feral Child Nov 2014 #47
Hey, we had the guy in NYC attack armed cops with a hatchet. 7962 Nov 2014 #49
If they were Islamist, I'll bet they passed on the Guy Fawkes masks! - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #19
And get Prince Charlie as successor? Cleita Nov 2014 #24
This woman survived the London Blitz. christx30 Nov 2014 #25
christx30 Diclotican Nov 2014 #44
Islamist plot ??? Rhinodawg Nov 2014 #26
Doesn't pass the smell test. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #27
It would be an absolutely devastating event for everyone in the UK. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #33
It seems more unlikely for thinking a knife attack on the queen at the ceremony could succeed muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #39
It'd definitely be a victory symbolically. Like blowing up a religious shrine. She's the ceremonial freshwest Nov 2014 #37
Thank you. Jamastiene Nov 2014 #46
It would be as big a fundraising/recruiting success as 9/11 was Recursion Nov 2014 #38
She is the head of state of the UK. hrmjustin Nov 2014 #40
what would be the point? She's pretty damn old yurbud Nov 2014 #48
Again, this would be an absolutely gut-wrenching, devastating body blow in the UK, Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #51
what would they gain from doing it besides increasing public support in the West for attacking them? yurbud Nov 2014 #52
You answered your own question. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #54
Update: 3 men charged with plotting to behead a member of the public muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #55
Reggie Jackson is still on the loose Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #56
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