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MADem

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93. Would that this were true. Lots of elections have tons of choice, and people still stay home.

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:03 AM

Nov 2014

There were five gubernatorial candidates in Massachusetts--FIVE. They ran the gamut from "Free college for everyone" to "Lock up the pro-choicers." There was a load of choice there. People didn't care. They didn't research the candidates, they didn't tune in to the debates, they just Did Not Care.

People are simply unwilling to Get Off Their Asses. They won't stand in line, they won't write ahead of time for an absentee ballot, they don't give a flying fig about their franchise. They make the EXCUSE that it "doesn't matter" but the reason it doesn't matter is BECAUSE of THEM. They could make the difference and they refuse to so do. Nothing is lighting a fire under their asses. They front, but they don't actually DO.

Remember all those orange hatted idealists who were supposed to GOTV for Howard Dean...only a shitload of them just didn't show up, and many of the ones who did show up either alienated the people they were supposed to reach, or treated the whole exercise as a big old hook up party?

Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got till it's gone?

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Reid: 'No desire' to obstruct GOP [View all] Freddie Stubbs Nov 2014 OP

Get rid of him upaloopa Nov 2014 #1

He is up for reelection in two years, but Freddie Stubbs Nov 2014 #3

I mean as minority leader. upaloopa Nov 2014 #12

The Democrats in the Senate seem to be happy with his leadership Freddie Stubbs Nov 2014 #13

That, indeed, is the bigger problem. Maedhros Nov 2014 #18

+1000 n/t MissDeeds Nov 2014 #19

No, it was Not President Obama. Cha Nov 2014 #66

Kind of interesting that when reThugs want to tie the place in knots they don't think about that! mazzarro Nov 2014 #48

The problem with your thesis is that Reid et al are not liberals. blackspade Nov 2014 #73

America has two senators -- Sanders and Warren. The rest are wind-up toys villager Nov 2014 #2

Actually, they are more like dummies and the corporations muntrv Nov 2014 #4

Well, that too. villager Nov 2014 #6

Exactly what I was afraid of. Phlem Nov 2014 #5

Only a shit head party would proclaim to be the party of "no". savalez Nov 2014 #7

The tactic of being the "Party of No" worked very, very well for the Republicans. Maedhros Nov 2014 #20

Block stuff you don't agree with savalez Nov 2014 #34

I don't expect the Republican majority will be bringing to the floor Maedhros Nov 2014 #35

Those should be blocked. n/t savalez Nov 2014 #36

Right on! Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #58

History shows that they won't be blocked. blackspade Nov 2014 #74

I don't know about that statement. savalez Nov 2014 #99

If Turtle and the Drunk bring absurd bills Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #8

Or he could let the President veto them. Freddie Stubbs Nov 2014 #15

Then they'll have to stand up and talk for hours, unlike when Dems control the Senate. Scuba Nov 2014 #49

He is ok with different rules then get the red out Nov 2014 #9

GOP Sets Its Top Priority For 2016: Defeating Harry Reid a kennedy Nov 2014 #10

They made the same priority in 2010 and couldn't pull it off davidpdx Nov 2014 #83

"Democrats accused Republicans of using filibusters..." Enrique Nov 2014 #11

Good ol Give em head Harry! OffWithTheirHeads Nov 2014 #14

Roll Over and Bend Over bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #16

Well said. Better yet, the Dems should resign and let the rethugs run things. Louisiana1976 Nov 2014 #60

Yes bucolic_frolic Nov 2014 #85

Doormat blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #17

One Party rule. Plain as anything. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #21

How many times will the Democratic rank-and-file be duped by these charlatans Maedhros Nov 2014 #23

Why do we think they are duped? Caretha Nov 2014 #59

And it's Millenials' fault for not showing up at the polls. nt DRoseDARs Nov 2014 #22

Why would they show up? GeorgeGist Nov 2014 #28

Well, that's a little pissy, don't you think? Cutting off their noses to spite their faces? MADem Nov 2014 #40

Ah yes, the good ol' Draft Scootaloo Nov 2014 #56

I am not "endorsing" the concept. I do wish the children would study their frickin history, though. MADem Nov 2014 #71

People would be more inclined to vote if they see a marked difference between the two parties Xyzse Nov 2014 #84

Would that this were true. Lots of elections have tons of choice, and people still stay home. MADem Nov 2014 #93

Not quite but I do see your point. Xyzse Nov 2014 #95

No politicians ever came up to me and "explained why it was important." MADem Nov 2014 #101

Completely agreed that Civics should be taught once more in the class rooms. Xyzse Nov 2014 #102

I don't have any answers. I don't know how to motivate these kids. MADem Nov 2014 #104

We are all products of our environments sadly. Xyzse Nov 2014 #105

Well, I've been hollered at for saying that OWS was a good idea, executed poorly. MADem Nov 2014 #108

Actually, I completely agree with you in that post. Xyzse Nov 2014 #111

They both suck Reter Nov 2014 #92

I don't see the problem with this. maxrandb Nov 2014 #24

Unfortunately, you are correct. BlueCaliDem Nov 2014 #27

SCHUUUUUUU-mer! Old Nick Nov 2014 #25

PuhleeZ , , , markpkessinger Nov 2014 #78

well that's not helpful azurnoir Nov 2014 #26

Again The Rethugs Put The Dems In This No Win Position.... global1 Nov 2014 #29

Great--whats next turbinetree Nov 2014 #30

You have misunderstood the Social Security taxes. If you make $17,000.01, you pay SS tax on $17,000 24601 Nov 2014 #61

no surprise - our democratic leaders are wimps and that's why samsingh Nov 2014 #31

lol RandiFan1290 Nov 2014 #32

Reid should have been throw out long ago DonCoquixote Nov 2014 #33

obstruction tuhaybey Nov 2014 #37

SMART MAN. MADem Nov 2014 #38

Agree. lamp_shade Nov 2014 #42

that's assuming Obama will use that veto pen yurbud Nov 2014 #96

You are correct sir. 4dsc Nov 2014 #97

It's kind of like being a paramedic, rushing a dying person to the hospital, only to be told yurbud Nov 2014 #98

Sometimes being a lame duck is a powerful position. MADem Nov 2014 #100

it didn't seem to play out that way with Bubba. yurbud Nov 2014 #106

Barack isn't Bubba.They don't have the same forces driving them, they're from different generations. MADem Nov 2014 #107

and yet Obama seemed to be trying to do triangulation--the GOP just refused to take yes f yurbud Nov 2014 #109

Triangulation is telling the GOP to go fuck themselves on immigration, keystone, and global warming? MADem Nov 2014 #110

DNC needs to scrape the angrychair Nov 2014 #39

You don't get how it works. That's obvious from your comments. MADem Nov 2014 #43

that is where you angrychair Nov 2014 #77

No. You do not get it. MADem Nov 2014 #81

I disagree with most of you. lamp_shade Nov 2014 #41

We have the catbird seat--and the guy in the catbird seat has a veto pen. MADem Nov 2014 #44

Harry knows how the game is played. lamp_shade Nov 2014 #46

Couldn't agree more--he knows the rules backwards and forwards! MADem Nov 2014 #47

Some here aren't bright enough to understand your point. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #86

^^ Clearly. lamp_shade Nov 2014 #88

that's why you got trashed Skittles Nov 2014 #45

congress approval was at 11% but 94% got riversedge Nov 2014 #50

Way to wave the white Flag dbackjon Nov 2014 #51

Of course you wouldn't...spineless jellyfish. SoapBox Nov 2014 #52

I think we win in 2016 if we stand aside now oldandhappy Nov 2014 #53

Yes, that 12-D chess/give them plenty of rope worked really well heading into 2010 Doctor_J Nov 2014 #65

yea, ok oldandhappy Nov 2014 #70

Not for nothing Cosmocat Nov 2014 #89

Ugh (nt) malokvale77 Nov 2014 #54

No Balls Harry should quit! santamargarita Nov 2014 #55

I'd love for this to just be the PR face toddwv Nov 2014 #57

Exhibit B on why the party is no longer a viable entity Doctor_J Nov 2014 #62

Touche Carolina Nov 2014 #64

See, now that is just bullshit Cosmocat Nov 2014 #91

No need to Turbineguy Nov 2014 #63

Republicans do NOT know how to govern AC_Mem Nov 2014 #67

Reid Third Doctor Nov 2014 #68

Obstruct the GOP? Brigid Nov 2014 #69

Holy Fuck. blackspade Nov 2014 #72

Why Does our side always capitulate?? Stargleamer Nov 2014 #75

Because we're "pragmatists," don't you know! markpkessinger Nov 2014 #79

YEP Cosmocat Nov 2014 #90

And that's the fucking problem! Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #76

That's fine as an initial public statement Blue Idaho Nov 2014 #80

You spineless POS. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #82

Does the GOP admit to obstructing Obama? JoePhilly Nov 2014 #87

with a GOP majority, it can function, but not for the American people yurbud Nov 2014 #94

I am going the other way on this one. GitRDun Nov 2014 #103