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10. Comment from a Canadian

Fri Nov 14, 2014, 11:56 AM

Nov 2014

Please understand that the oil-company backers of the tar sands up here in Canada have been unable to convince Canadians to let them build the infrastructure they want to ship their dirty oil abroad. This is why our oil-patch, Alberta-based governing party supports sending our dirty oil through the US via KXL for shipment abroad.

My view is that we should leave this oil in the ground until every bit of cleaner oil has been used up. If that ends up being "never" because renewables and carbon restrictions make this kind of carbon-intensive oil uneconomic, then that's absolutely fine with me, the world will be a better place, and so will Canada.

So, I hope the President vetoes whatever approvals big oil and the GOP push through Congress on the KXL.

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Obama Rejects Argument Keystone Will Add Jobs, Cut Fuel Cost [View all] IDemo Nov 2014 OP

WOW nykym Nov 2014 #1

Infrastructure improvement should be on the table randr Nov 2014 #2

For Christ's sake Old Codger Nov 2014 #3

It does go to refineries jmowreader Nov 2014 #56

that is a good point itsrobert Nov 2014 #58

We'll get higher gas prices jmowreader Nov 2014 #64

Interestingly ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #4

Of course DU'ers didn't recognize what was up. This is the first time he has made his stand rhett o rick Nov 2014 #13

Why didn't he make this stand long before this? Martin Eden Nov 2014 #24

Probably ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #43

That depends ... Martin Eden Nov 2014 #70

Here's the "problem" with you statement ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #73

I disagree Martin Eden Nov 2014 #77

Please clarify this statement, "Yes, they believe that they have everything to gain from Keystone ." rhett o rick Nov 2014 #95

"I strongly believe in closing the barn door." RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #72

Horse's Asses Martin Eden Nov 2014 #75

That very well could be and I agree with you about standing on principle should rhett o rick Nov 2014 #78

65% of Americans favor the pipeline Recursion Nov 2014 #92

Much of that 65% is based on a false narrative Martin Eden Nov 2014 #93

I'd be interested in seeing the source of that statistic. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #94

An ABC/Washington Post poll from March Recursion Nov 2014 #96

Thank you. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since the public has been told up to this point by rhett o rick Nov 2014 #97

Why didn't he make this stand long before this? ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #42

I don't mind his "playing politics" if it benefits the people. I am not convinced this did. rhett o rick Nov 2014 #79

But rhett ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #81

From 350.com(anti-pipeline) on the President's Stand in 2012.. Cha Nov 2014 #91

Surely he knows it's a Koch profit project, and little more. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #34

Oh yes offering CCPI as a bargaining chip is totally a red herring Fearless Nov 2014 #35

I don't know. Half-Century Man Nov 2014 #47

The problem is too many people think they're smarter and more politically savvy than Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #82

Proven wrong!? Fearless Nov 2014 #87

Now that's the guy I thought I voted for. GoneFishin Nov 2014 #5

Kickin' Faux pas Nov 2014 #6

I hope Barack Obama heaven05 Nov 2014 #7

He deserves some fun. He's so far beyond them in intelligence humor and common sense. Voice for Peace Nov 2014 #38

yes, yes! heaven05 Nov 2014 #66

Amen! ReRe Nov 2014 #46

great music! heaven05 Nov 2014 #67

Seriously. ReRe Nov 2014 #68

I am hoping so. heaven05 Nov 2014 #69

So why is it being promoted as such a good thing? TheCowsCameHome Nov 2014 #8

Winner winner Chicken dinner... Historic NY Nov 2014 #12

It's worse than that. RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #14

Yes. deurbano Nov 2014 #28

There are many U.S. Corporations that would stand to gain daleo Nov 2014 #52

Totally agree. I didn't mean to imply otherwise RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #71

And destroying his yard too, whether he cares or not, ozone_man Nov 2014 #84

Yes. Absolutely! RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #85

FTM ... follow the money. This is energy companies buying voices in Congress ... SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2014 #17

Forgive my stupidity SmittynMo Nov 2014 #9

It also travels over the main source of water for the heartland ... staggerleem Nov 2014 #27

Game over SmittynMo Nov 2014 #45

Comment from a Canadian Bragi Nov 2014 #10

Thank you underpants Nov 2014 #21

A west-to-east pipeline was approved BY HARPER Bragi Nov 2014 #30

Thanks again underpants Nov 2014 #44

Hah! Good one /nt Bragi Nov 2014 #76

Our Conservative asshole-in-chief gave his approval LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #39

"... the world will be a better place, and so will Canada." Martin Eden Nov 2014 #25

Exactly right LiberalLovinLug Nov 2014 #26

Sums up my opinions too daleo Nov 2014 #54

Oh, this will create jobs alright! Let's be very clear on that! Roland99 Nov 2014 #11

The computer they have can do that already jmowreader Nov 2014 #61

“It doesn’t have an impact on U.S. gas prices.” SomeGuyInEagan Nov 2014 #15

The policy that is CURRENTLY decreasing our gas prices ... staggerleem Nov 2014 #31

The claim that they will charge us less at the pump based on Keystone is effing hilarious. DesertDiamond Nov 2014 #16

It's the same concept... ReRe Nov 2014 #49

TG! I was seriously thinking of getting on a plane to protest this thing. jillan Nov 2014 #18

They just haven't told us that the jobs created will be construction workers corkhead Nov 2014 #19

It's very likely ... staggerleem Nov 2014 #33

See? shenmue Nov 2014 #20

Yes, he CAN! n/t ReRe Nov 2014 #50

Supporters of the pipeline project ... staggerleem Nov 2014 #22

I'll go with the first part of your 1st sentence Iliyah Nov 2014 #36

YES!!!! GitRDun Nov 2014 #23

It does make it a little clearer why the Koch brothers advertise... Blanks Nov 2014 #29

OF COURSE! staggerleem Nov 2014 #40

Jon Stewart introduced the new sponsor here: tclambert Nov 2014 #59

Did you see John Stewart lambast them? Blanks Nov 2014 #60

Destroying America's backyards, the economy, voter suppression, health care, women's rights, Iliyah Nov 2014 #32

Pipeline, post construction jobs: 35 permanent; 15 temps. Divernan Nov 2014 #37

"most workers would be specialized and need to be brought in from outside those states" staggerleem Nov 2014 #41

Probably from Texas jmowreader Nov 2014 #74

Holy Crap! Truth to OIL Industry? Mr. Mustard Nov 2014 #48

Who are cons so intent on helping the Canadian GOVERNMENT randys1 Nov 2014 #51

Obama is Correct. TxVietVet Nov 2014 #53

Within Canada, there is a lot of opposition to pipelines daleo Nov 2014 #55

K&R&NT ZombieHorde Nov 2014 #57

well the President florida08 Nov 2014 #62

but it can be done if enough noise is made florida08 Nov 2014 #63

Nice to see he lives in reality. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2014 #65

Good for Obama... sendero Nov 2014 #80

He desrves credit for standing up to this. ozone_man Nov 2014 #83

Obama Rejects Argument Keystone Will Add Jobs, Cut Fuel Cost ... blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #86

Keystone XL doesn't exist anymore. Eridenus Nov 2014 #88

Oh good.. I reported on this in GD.. hadn't seen anything about it. Glad it's in LBN Cha Nov 2014 #89

In which Obama shows the GOP the third finger so the whole world can see it... freshwest Nov 2014 #90