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MADem

(135,425 posts)
43. "God Given" Hair!
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:07 PM
Nov 2014

They are sitting on some of the largest oil reserves IN THE WORLD. They're OPEC members--you don't get in that club without a "minimum!"

They should be wealthy. Not just "OK" but rich as Roosevelts. They should be the salsa-merengue-tango version of Saudi Arabia. They should be able to import food from all over South America--beef from Brazil and Argentina, fruits and veggies from Peru, Ecuador, etc., they shouldn't have ANY want--they have enough oil to pay for everything.

Why aren't they? They "buy love" from Cuba with Free Oil. They also bribe their neighbors with cheap oil so that they won't go against them at OAS meetings. When they aren't giving away their wealth, they let the profits from their oil industry migrate to the oligarchy (aka the Boligarchs) who spend it carelessly and cackle at anyone who challenges their corruption.

They borrow huge sums from China--billions--in exchange for oil futures--they're selling the stuff at ten cents a gallon, in essence. And they'll still have to pump oil for Beijing long after that money is spent.

They ask people to fix their industry infrastructure, then refuse to pay them and nationalize their assets--for this reason, no one wants to help them anymore, and won't unless they are paid upfront. No one likes a weaseler/chiseller, and that is Venezuela in a nutshell. It's also why their infrastructure is falling apart and they can't pump at anywhere near capacity.

They don't pay their bills. That's why no planes will fly there, because any money for tickets purchased in VZ has to be "processed" through the gov't at their "official" exchange rate -- which is a joke. You can live like a king on a dollar a day if you find the right money exchanger who will keep his mouth shut--and that's assuming you don't get killed because they have--not the worst, they will INSIST--but the THIRD worst crime rate in the world. They actually might have the worst crime rate, most crimes are NOT solved, and who knows how many just aren't reported...because really, what's the point?

They bribe the loyal poor with stupid shit--here's some electricity for your shack, here's a cheap cell phone, here's a dumb-ass job sweeping the street. Show up at the Maduro rally and cheer like hell, we'll give you a frozen chicken for your trouble! This might not seem like a big deal, but when the line to get into the supermarket stretches for a half mile or more, and you have to worry about getting robbed when you come out of the store with your ration of toothpaste, dishwashing liquid, toilet paper and arepa flour, and there's no meat to be had so forget about that, you can see what a hellish life it is.

This is not "spin." This is how it is. There is a massive diaspora going on and anyone who can get out of VZ, with options (i.e. a job, a way to support oneself) does it. Puerto Rico--which isn't doing so great, either--is thick with VZans, so's FL, metro DC and a host of other communities in USA. It's AWFUL. The joke is "Why buy toilet paper? It's cheaper to use the money instead." The place is failing and there's no damn reason for it, save corruption and a really, really stupid world view.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a coup enroute--and not by the opposition, from inside the power structure. Maduro, the Colombian incompetent, is way past his sell-by date and needs to go.

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VZ threads just aren't the same without EFerrari KamaAina Nov 2014 #1
Fully agree! RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #2
I have notified her via Facebook KamaAina Nov 2014 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author IkeRepublican Nov 2014 #4
Army coup? Does Diosdado Cabello still have friends in uniform? MADem Nov 2014 #5
You talking about 'big hair' or whoever it was? I still keep scratching my head over this thing. freshwest Nov 2014 #28
"this may all be media spin"--since the VZ gov controls the media, it's not spin wordpix Nov 2014 #33
"God Given" Hair! MADem Nov 2014 #43
MADem - did you live in VZ at one time? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #65
My grandfather did. MADem Nov 2014 #70
I marked it off my vacation list. Thanks! Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2014 #88
About that food supply thing.. dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #46
"The USA gov'ts have invaded damn near every So. American country" EX500rider Nov 2014 #102
You are correct.....i meant to say.... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #109
I've seen this movie before Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #92
And if there is a capital strike, christx30 Nov 2014 #105
How much do you know about the northern South American countries? Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #113
"since a dark-skinned man (Chavez) had the gall to be elected president" ? EX500rider Nov 2014 #133
Duh, I know that the U.S. deals with dark-skinned politicians Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #135
Government currency laws are the problem hack89 Nov 2014 #116
And the price controls... EX500rider Nov 2014 #134
Saudi Arabia/OPEC deflating oil price to compete with natural gas industry(fracking) Divernan Nov 2014 #6
That stuff about jobs from the pipeline is a bunch of malarky. Someone built a pipeling through our jwirr Nov 2014 #10
So what would be the difference with any other building project? 7962 Nov 2014 #11
The difference is that leak I mentioned. Those other projects do not threaten our natural resources. jwirr Nov 2014 #13
Well, we've already seen railcars spilling or exploding. Tankers wouldnt be much safer. 7962 Nov 2014 #14
Fairly safe is not good enough over the aquifer. Why don't they go around the aquifer? If they go jwirr Nov 2014 #15
sounds like a good idea, so maybe someone should present a bill specifying that 7962 Nov 2014 #16
No, we might as well tell the Canadian fools to Darb Nov 2014 #125
KSA has cut oil output. what has VZ done? ...nt quadrature Nov 2014 #27
Okay so what is going on here in laymens terms? I have read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein jwirr Nov 2014 #7
In layman's terms: Chavez and Maduro fucked up VZ. nt Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #9
Yes, but the CIA/USA will be blamed even by many right here on DU! 7962 Nov 2014 #12
Well, bu$h certainly didn't help things Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #25
That was a LONG time ago and has little bearing on the current farce. 7962 Nov 2014 #29
There is nothing wrong in Venezuela. harun Nov 2014 #41
You forgot the sarcasm thingy. Some folks might actually think you're SERIOUS! 7962 Nov 2014 #44
I am serious harun Nov 2014 #53
I'm quite sure the citizens of VN would call your assertation bullshit. GGJohn Nov 2014 #55
The greedy pigs might harun Nov 2014 #57
Stop it! I cant stop laughing! "Viva la Revolution" & pass the leaves! HAHAHAAHA! 7962 Nov 2014 #60
Ideology trumps everything. Let them eat speeches. Throd Nov 2014 #61
Now THATS a darn good saying. I'm gonna remember that. Thanks. 7962 Nov 2014 #62
I think you need some re-education, Comrade. delta17 Nov 2014 #89
Looks like you've had some education yourself. harun Nov 2014 #115
Stop it, GGJohn Nov 2014 #73
And you are right. We all know it. The sociopaths among us try to keep the truth buried Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #59
Yes some do try to keep the truth buried.. EX500rider Nov 2014 #67
God, you too? GGJohn Nov 2014 #74
Yes. Zorra Nov 2014 #104
So if you don't think Venezuela is some kind of paradise you're a "sociopath"? Really? EX500rider Nov 2014 #130
Who are you calling a "capitalist pig?" nt MADem Nov 2014 #71
Look for the IMF to be flying in soon as the dust settles dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #21
This, exactly ... brett_jv Nov 2014 #23
Austerity can't be any worse then it is right now hack89 Nov 2014 #32
Shortages are something you can do something about. Those loans from the IMF make your country jwirr Nov 2014 #35
The government is spending a lot more money than it brings in hack89 Nov 2014 #38
You are right that neither way is going to make much difference. However we have seen the IMF in jwirr Nov 2014 #40
I use austerity in its generic sense hack89 Nov 2014 #42
Well... Adrahil Nov 2014 #117
They mortgaged their future to China, too. They owe China tens and tens of BILLIONS.... MADem Nov 2014 #45
WE owe China tens and tens of BILLIONS.... dixiegrrrrl Nov 2014 #48
We can still pay our bills and meet our obligations hack89 Nov 2014 #52
We aren't giving away OIL to them. Maduro signed a deal with them to pay them in cheap OIL. MADem Nov 2014 #54
Okay now I see the connection. Let them fight it out - don't really care who wins as long as you jwirr Nov 2014 #34
Interesting that some of the damning evidence comes from Stratfor RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #8
Very interesting ozone_man Nov 2014 #90
Yes. What's sad is that our propaganda frequently becomes self-fulfilling RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #91
Capitalists are still bitter over Chavez, eh? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #17
It's the Venezuelans who should be bitter. Throd Nov 2014 #18
Why? hack89 Nov 2014 #19
Of course, it's been 'mismanaged' ... I mean really, how ELSE could a 'Leftist' system be? brett_jv Nov 2014 #24
Frankly, I don't think the US cares one iota about Venezuela FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #30
Actually socialism and mismanagement do not go hand in hand hack89 Nov 2014 #31
I'd say that empty shelves and 60+% inflation.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #20
Absolutely. I doubt that any ideology is needed to produce anger under those situations. jwirr Nov 2014 #36
Venezuela has certainly been an enlightening experiment in non-capitalism (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #96
A frightened bond trader daleo Nov 2014 #22
Frightened bond traders ROCK Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #26
Most of the posts in this thread read like something from FreeRepublic. candelista Nov 2014 #37
Pointing out that VZ is poorly managed and has wrecked its economy hack89 Nov 2014 #39
We have a lot of low-information posters here Bragi Nov 2014 #47
Thank GOD we have you here to save us from ourselves! 7962 Nov 2014 #63
If you could, please point me to the information that will help me understand how VZ doesn't have hughee99 Nov 2014 #131
Thanks, but I'll pass on that nt Bragi Nov 2014 #136
Oh, please. We're supposed to "support" this kind of shit? Get real. MADem Nov 2014 #49
Well, I tried to say it nicely, but DAMN that was well done!! nt 7962 Nov 2014 #64
Thank you. MADem Nov 2014 #66
Looks like you scared them all off. No replies. But then, what could they SAY? nt 7962 Nov 2014 #110
Pointing out the truth about VN is a RW talking point? GGJohn Nov 2014 #50
I think there should be a 5000 post minimum before someone can challenge another's presence. nt Dreamer Tatum Nov 2014 #56
It's been that way too long. Sad to read the #### storm from the cluster of winger trolls every time Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #58
Yeah, we're all winger trolls because we like to tell the truth about mismanagement and corruption GGJohn Nov 2014 #75
You "like to tell the truth about mismanagement and corruption in the VN. Govt." Interesting. Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #79
Stop it, yer killing me. GGJohn Nov 2014 #84
"The troll cluster here passes on, with great heat, what the oddly crafted right-wing line" EX500rider Nov 2014 #103
Truth is inconvenient isn't it. GGJohn Nov 2014 #107
So is this the way it works, anyone who disagrees with you on the corruption in GGJohn Nov 2014 #108
You know it's possible to like baseball and hate th Yankees Adrahil Nov 2014 #132
Avoiding or denying uncomfortable truths is a FreeRepublic trait FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #72
OFFS.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #118
Even "liberals" are brainwashed to hate genuine Leftism. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #126
NO. You are mistaken. Adrahil Nov 2014 #129
The only scared trader is one who has taken the wrong position nt Depaysement Nov 2014 #51
This smells like a Shock Doctrine ratfuck. hifiguy Nov 2014 #68
That's my suspicion, too Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #93
Yeah, that's it, it couldn't possibly be the fault of the VN govts. mismanagement of the economy. GGJohn Nov 2014 #98
Did I say that the Venezuelan government was perfect? Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #101
If the government is controlling prices TexasMommaWithAHat Nov 2014 #119
True, most of the businesses are still in private hands, GGJohn Nov 2014 #121
Just like what Nixon did, then Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2014 #123
And, just like in VN. it backfired badly. GGJohn Nov 2014 #124
Yup. The Mighty Wurlitzer is getting it's freak on. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #127
Anyone beisdes me ever heard of "The Peter Principle?" Archae Nov 2014 #69
Thought-provoking attempt to try to stretch "banana republic" to fit Maduro's administration! Wow. Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #76
And this has what to do with what's going on in VN today? GGJohn Nov 2014 #78
Ask the 1 who wrote "Maduro is on way over his head and is beginning the autocratic "banana republic Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #81
Well, he is in over his head and well on the way towards a banana republic. GGJohn Nov 2014 #85
The pattern is there. Archae Nov 2014 #80
Pattern is there? You forgot they are puppet governments put in place by US interests, Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #82
I guess when all else fails, blame the US govt for VN's woes. GGJohn Nov 2014 #86
Obama was positively cackling when he gave the order to impose hyperinflation there (nt) Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #95
I think yours is the winning post for today! 7962 Nov 2014 #111
Will the Vultures like Paul Singer come in at the last minute and buy the debt for a fraction randys1 Nov 2014 #77
No. VZ will simply default hack89 Nov 2014 #83
What an absolute mess Chavez and Maduro have made of that place. Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #87
It was such a paradise before. Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 #94
The problem is the dependence on oil, and has been a problem since at least the 1920s happyslug Nov 2014 #99
Bond traders, generally, are lying sacks of shit. Sort of like selling used cars. bemildred Nov 2014 #97
Hey that Bolivarian Socialism is really working out well ! Imajika Nov 2014 #100
Really? Mugabe? I guess I missed those OPs unless it was before my time. 7962 Nov 2014 #112
If you follow the western media narritive on Ven, everyone there should have died a decade ago. Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #106
the collapse of oil prices should put a damper on dirty oil projects here too yurbud Nov 2014 #114
Hi... sendero Nov 2014 #120
You know it's bad when Cubans are fleeing that country. Kaleva Nov 2014 #122
Here's a thought; maybe the Maduro supporters here should move their savings to Venezuela... brooklynite Nov 2014 #128
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