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hughee99

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5. I thought this part of the article was really interesting.
Fri Nov 14, 2014, 01:22 PM
Nov 2014

Are these two statements from 2 different globe articles really the same thing?

"Under the climate deal, the two countries agreed to reduce carbon emissions by at least a quarter of what they were in 2005 over the next decade. That is about twice the current targets."

"China, the world’s biggest greenhouse gas emitter, pledged in the far-reaching agreement to cap its rapidly growing carbon emissions by 2030, or earlier if possible. It also set a daunting goal of increasing the share of non-fossil fuels to 20 percent of the country’s energy mix by 2030.
Obama announced a target to cut US emissions 26 to 28 percent below 2005 levels by 2025, the first time the president has set a goal beyond the existing 17 percent target by 2020."

The first statement, from this article praising Kerry, sounds like a great deal that Kerry negotiated with the Chinese. The second statement, from another globe story 2 days ago, makes it sound like the US gave significant concessions and, in return, China agreed to stop making their own pollutions problems worse, but not starting right away, STARTING 15 YEARS FROM NOW.

I don't see how the person who wrote THIS article could have possibly read the globe article from 2 days ago.

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Kerry is Underrated Old Nick Nov 2014 #1
Agree on both counts karynnj Nov 2014 #2
Let me just throw in that Hillary followed by Kerry has been very good underpants Nov 2014 #10
Hillary replaced by anyone is good. blackcrowflies Nov 2014 #22
John McCain, Lindsey Graham or perhaps Joe Lieberman???? karynnj Nov 2014 #23
Bullcrap, but typical of this site. Beacool Nov 2014 #35
K&R right here. And thanks for the background on this. freshwest Nov 2014 #24
Perhaps. But didn't he have his chance to shine? Helen Borg Nov 2014 #17
Do you think if he was picked to be VP in 2016 people would support the up-ticket candidate? ffr Nov 2014 #3
No he said pretty clearly that this was his last government position underpants Nov 2014 #7
I would seriously doubt it karynnj Nov 2014 #11
He's been dishonored enough jmowreader Nov 2014 #19
The Chinese leadership couldn't care less. Shemp Howard Nov 2014 #4
I think the Chinese do care and the reason is quality of life karynnj Nov 2014 #8
I hope you're right! (nt) Shemp Howard Nov 2014 #15
I thought this part of the article was really interesting. hughee99 Nov 2014 #5
The intention has been stated. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #9
I wasn't really asking that. hughee99 Nov 2014 #12
I have not read any details - if they are really available karynnj Nov 2014 #16
I'm not saying there aren't some benefits to the deal, but hughee99 Nov 2014 #20
Imagine what the world would be like if Kerry had become president in 2004. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #6
He might have been, if he'd listened to John Edwards. n/t ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #18
Or he might have been had he not given in to everyone pushing Edwards as VP karynnj Nov 2014 #21
I would consider Elizabeth Edwards (R.I.P.) a credible source, and she said he did. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #26
Elizabeth was lying as well karynnj Nov 2014 #27
Slandering a dead woman. ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #28
So, I should allow you to cite something she said as Gospel truth because she died? karynnj Nov 2014 #29
You don't know that they were untrue, do you? ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #30
I do know that when pushed to state what they would have done, they never answered karynnj Nov 2014 #32
Wow! ColesCountyDem Nov 2014 #33
Not super powers karynnj Nov 2014 #34
Factoid. A. David Mazzone, the federal judge who ordered the clean up of Boston harbor, merrily Nov 2014 #13
I think Kerry is a unique person. dballance Nov 2014 #14
Thank you for this karyn.. I had read on the Obama diary that Kerry has been working on the Cha Nov 2014 #25
Thank you for that link karynnj Nov 2014 #31
Yes, Pres Obama chose well when he tapped John Kerry for SOS.. remember all the whining on Cha Nov 2014 #36
Sure do --- some of the loudest whiners even invaded the JK group karynnj Nov 2014 #37
Kerry was the perfect choice! P.S. I added the caption that belongs under the pic. :) Cha Nov 2014 #38
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