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56. It is STILL an insurance scam.

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 09:32 PM

Nov 2014

Until we drop the age requirement from Medicare and open it to all - no exceptions - we will be subject to the whims of insurance companies wanting to make it a profit.

It doesn't matter what we call the plan, if it includes a for-profit motive it is not in the interest of the country as a whole. Only the folks profiting.

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Obama: US public not misled on health care law [View all] Omaha Steve Nov 2014 OP

Except for the whole " if you like your plan you can keep it part" Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #1

The ACA did not require insurers to cancel plans. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #3

Not quite. business owners face a $100 a day fine... quadrature Nov 2014 #7

The maybe they should stop discriminating against women. jwirr Nov 2014 #22

It was never discrimination YarnAddict Nov 2014 #29

These same plans often do pay for problems that only men have so I do think it is discrimination. jwirr Nov 2014 #34

Examples? YarnAddict Nov 2014 #36

The point is that we should not have women or men only health care plans. It is totally insane to jwirr Nov 2014 #38

All your words do not negate the President's. He used the definite "YOU CAN," not "YOU MIGHT." WinkyDink Nov 2014 #8

Um, no YarnAddict Nov 2014 #28

I had something like that for christx30 Nov 2014 #39

No, they could have modified the plan JoePhilly Nov 2014 #45

When they modify the plan YarnAddict Nov 2014 #48

Except that was an insurance scam and a lie propagated by the rwingers.. Cha Nov 2014 #4

Why do folks not understand the insurance companies are less their friends than government, that Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #15

Because some want a chance to call the President a liar.. when nothing could be further from Cha Nov 2014 #16

Exactly! Why is that so hard to message? mountain grammy Nov 2014 #18

Perhaps for the same reason that some people don't understand that "Obamacare" left a good bit our hughee99 Nov 2014 #46

It is STILL an insurance scam. TBF Nov 2014 #56

There's also the part about: OldRedneck Nov 2014 #9

And, "I will insist on a public option", and "We will have full transparency" Doctor_J Nov 2014 #13

I would bet you that about 99% of the people that had insurance before ACA became Law Bandit Nov 2014 #14

I dont think insurance costs have dropped for 99% Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #21

They are telling us to go back to the exchange and comparitive shop for a better plan. Have you? jwirr Nov 2014 #24

My annual max through my employer plan went up by 800% Doctor_J Nov 2014 #47

That is funny. I am working with a woman who got to keep her old useless plan. They have sent her jwirr Nov 2014 #19

Thank you for that, jwirr. Cha Nov 2014 #58

Welcome, we need to work together on things in this group if we are to accomplish anything. jwirr Nov 2014 #59

Standard GOP talking points jpak Nov 2014 #20

Barney frank has called out Obama for that lie Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #23

"But here’s the dirty little secret: Mr. Gruber was exposing something sordid yet completely commonp riversedge Nov 2014 #2

Thanks for that explanation of Gruber's comments! Martin Eden Nov 2014 #6

Good explanation. GOPers obviously want to kill the little progress that's been made groundloop Nov 2014 #12

Well, Republicans do not see it as progress--its socialism to riversedge Nov 2014 #27

^^THIS^^ 2naSalit Nov 2014 #52

Gruber.. smh Cha Nov 2014 #5

Gruber was right OldRedneck Nov 2014 #10

That's the thing, voters are ignorant of how Washington works, or doesn't as the case may be. Dustlawyer Nov 2014 #26

Apparently, YarnAddict Nov 2014 #32

"fully transparent" ctsnowman Nov 2014 #11

It was. It was not fully understood, few laws are. Hardly revolutionary, just more RW propaganda. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #17

That is precisely the same argument JP Morgan used to fuck over the American people with all their jtuck004 Nov 2014 #37

Providing health care for others and personal greed....not the same thing. Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #50

I understand what you are saying... jtuck004 Nov 2014 #54

It was not the transparency that is the problem. The bill is far too complicated and hard to jwirr Nov 2014 #25

It is not anymore complicated than Medicare still_one Nov 2014 #31

I have both Medicare and Medicaid and they are very easy to sign up for and use. I think the jwirr Nov 2014 #35

True, but still the difference between the different supplemental group coverages and costs, Plan A still_one Nov 2014 #42

I think you've hit the nail on the head. One should not need a Ph.D. in public policy KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #33

True, but even health insurance reform is a big deal. People who could not get coverage before, at still_one Nov 2014 #44

It was health care reform for a country of 300 million people Cosmocat Nov 2014 #40

Bingo. jwirr Nov 2014 #43

Here is the Gruber video. candelista Nov 2014 #30

Except the "I strongly support a public option" part. Of course NorthCarolina Nov 2014 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Nov 2014 #49

K&R in the Strongest Possible Terms! Old Nick Nov 2014 #51

I agree with Gruber as far as voters being stupid as if they werent stupid cstanleytech Nov 2014 #53

The American public has been mislead, by the GOP, they are still passing around the "death panel" Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #55

Maybe you should talk TBF Nov 2014 #57