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Hassin Bin Sober

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80. Not sure what you mean by only loss of traction.

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 11:48 PM

Nov 2014

ESC helps correct over steer and under steer. It senses inputs in to the steering wheel and uses brakes to achieve desired result in the event of loss of traction.

It's not only traction control that keeps your wheels from spinning on acceleration. Although they all work with the ABS and may retard engine power.

And yes it is standard. It is mandated on all passenger vehicles after 2012.

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